Climate change

[zack1234]

What are you doing to save the planet!

[TequilaChaser]

From all of the fake science reports and theorizing regarding "climate change" and scare tactics to fool people around the world and get people, country's governments to flood wasted money towards a false cause

They have suckered and scared most into thinking it's actually real

Read up on when they found the hole in the ozone, then they claimed it was getting bigger, then they claimed that the earth's ozone layer was burning away because of fluorocarbons (stuff like carbon dioxide, HVAC refrigerants R-12, R-22, R-512, etc) were banned and outlawed around that what was it the 1992 agreement all to be found as a false truth

Ozone is a  natural occurrence that is like earth's own cleaning aid (like using bleach to clean your white linen), happening most times during lightening/thunderstorms....

The hole in the ozone is over Antarctica and was found around 1947 and it shrinks and enlarges and shrinks over and over, never has gotten any bigger

Yet this was Big business way to increase their profit margins and force the world to pay more as they phased out the refrigerants I posted earlier, then created new refrigerants like R-410 and R-134 then turn around and rinse repeat the process of suckering people to change over and convert their HVAC&R systems to use the new refrigerants

Nothing new under the Sun!   History always repeats itself

It is up to each individual to see through the BS and find the truth

The Earth's history shows that "climate change" is nothing more than Nature's way of working, nothing more-or-less

TC

[TWCAxew]

I do actually it's real. It's bad. Maybe you notice little since your country is so huge. But we are f"ed.

[TequilaChaser]

I do actually it's real. It's bad. Maybe you notice little since your country is so huge. But we are f"ed.

No, I pay attention to what is going on around the world....

I could use GOD's living word and get Biblical with you and show you the truth about how this Earth age ends before the 3rd Earth age starts

But I will refrain because of the forum rules

~S~

TC

Time for my daily Bible study

Edit: this was in today's study, it seems fitting with what I posted earlier

Jeremiah Chapter 16 verse 19 King James version

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Changed house heating and warm water from oil to geothermal heating ( before 3.5 cubic meter oil /year)
Changed to car that use Ethanol (E85) instead of gasoline
Work from home all days in the week.
Changed most of my customer meetings to Skype meetings.
Changed 90% of lights in house to LED.


Still fly sometimes but my fossil footprint is quite less, since 95% of all electricity in Sweden is either hydro- or nuclear powered.

[Zimme83]

No, I pay attention to what is going on around the world....

I could use GOD's living word and get Biblical with you and show you the truth about how this Earth age ends before the 3rd Earth age starts

But I will refrain because of the forum rules

~S~

TC

Time for my daily Bible study

Edit: this was in today's study, it seems fitting with what I posted earlier

Jeremiah Chapter 16 verse 19 King James version

Why not read something more funny? There are a lot of better cartoons out there.

[FLS]

The climate is always changing.  We are still learning the cycles. The notion that CO2 is a problem is beyond ludicrous.

The climate change I'm worried about is our current reduced solar energy. An object the size of the Sun isn't likely to have quick cycles. Something that happens every thousand years or more is unlikely to be well documented. Look at the Maunder  Minimum and the Little Ice Age if you aren't familiar with it. Lasted 70 years. It's a recurring cycle and we seem to be in the new one.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/7122/chilly-temperatures-during-the-maunder-minimum

Climate change is mostly a political issue and unfit for discussion here so let's stick to the science part.

I'm sure Save disagrees with me about which science.   

I ride a bicycle everywhere. I get to yell at smug greenies in Prius's.  The "expert class" that said fat is bad, eggs are bad, meat is bad, heavy squats are bad, running fast is bad, are now jetting around the world to say jetting around the world is bad. They seem insincere.

[Zimme83]

Climate change is btw not not controversial or debated. It is in the end all about thermodynamics. And it has been known for more than 100 years. I dont believe in climate change, i just accept the data. Even a inconvenient truth is a truth. It is going to change our society fundamentally no matter what. What we can do is minimizing the effects and adapt. But it wont go away just because we pretend it doesnt exist.

Edit: i will not bother to reply anymore in this topic since ive seen you argument about it before and it is just a waste of time.

[puller]

I'm going to buy a bunch of land and drill oil wells...then I'm gonna vent all the methane...after I use a dozer to clear all the trees

[FLS]

Why not read something more funny? There are a lot of better cartoons out there.

When people are rude it shows they lack something in their lives.

When we are children we get a child's understanding of religion.

As we get older we might realize that childish knowledge is flawed. A thoughtful person might revisit the whole idea with an adults understanding of human nature and society. Which you would want to discuss on a different forum that allows such debates. 


 

[TequilaChaser]

Zimme83,

I studied nuclear physics (why the Navy wanted me and signed me up with a $6k signing bonus and gave me my diploma upon enlistment at the age of 16) found out I was going to be on a submarine and switched rating to Aviation Machinist/jet mechanic.....) and Thermodynamics I studied after my Navy stint at the university of central Florida with multiple other certification courses on energy rating, auditing and geothermal and Solar energy and photovolitic panel usage at the Solar Energy Center, Coco beach, Florida near Cape Canavarl...

I agree that it is a political issue FLS as well as Big Business

I've designed multi-million dollar HVAC&R systems for the DOD and 3 different branches of military as well as 2 Vegas casinos/hotels

I'm confident that I know what is actually going on and I'm not one to follow "man's word" when I know I'm being lied to

I will leave it at that on the matter

I'm all for energy conservation

~S~

TC

[Shuffler]

So far nothing out of the ordinary. The earth heats and cools. Always has, always will. I do like I always have.

[Copprhed]

The people who blindly say that it's nothing, or that this is just a "cycle" selectively ignore certain facts. This has happened in a 100 year or less period, which is NO CYCLE. It's a result of artificial(abnormal) influence put on it by humanity. Cycles happen over thousands of years, and there has been no asteroid strike or supervolcanic eruption. You can continue to delude yourselves, but I have no doubt that God will deal with those who ignored and continued to destroy His earth. The rest should think about what they are leaving their posterity....Eden or Hell.......

[FESS67]

TC you are both right and wrong.

Yes, the Earth has a natural cycle and warming / cooling is a part of that.  However, to ignore the part that us Humans influence the climate is folly.  We are an unstoppable, destructive force and yes, we do influence the climate.  To do nothing is to condemn the Earth to death.  To adopt more natural practices is much more sustainable.

Respectfully.

[Bizman]

I haven't done more kids than they have parents. They don't seem to want to make me a granddad. There's too many of us already.

I also don't push hot air outside my house. When it's hot, it's hot.