I do actually it's real. It's bad. Maybe you notice little since your country is so huge. But we are f"ed.
No, I pay attention to what is going on around the world....
I could use GOD's living word and get Biblical with you and show you the truth about how this Earth age ends before the 3rd Earth age starts
But I will refrain because of the forum rules
~S~
TC
Time for my daily Bible study
Edit: this was in today's study, it seems fitting with what I posted earlier
Jeremiah Chapter 16 verse 19 King James version
Why not read something more funny? There are a lot of better cartoons out there.
TC you are both right and wrong.
Yes, the Earth has a natural cycle and warming / cooling is a part of that. However, to ignore the part that us Humans influence the climate is folly. We are an unstoppable, destructive force and yes, we do influence the climate. To do nothing is to condemn the Earth to death. To adopt more natural practices is much more sustainable.
Respectfully.
Changed house heating and warm water from oil to geothermal heating ( before 3.5 cubic meter oil /year)
Changed to car that use Ethanol (E85) instead of gasoline
Work from home all days in the week.
Changed most of my customer meetings to Skype meetings.
Changed 90% of lights in house to LED.
Still fly sometimes but my fossil footprint is quite less, since 95% of all electricity in Sweden is either hydro- or nuclear powered.
I haven't done more kids than they have parents. They don't seem to want to make me a granddad. There's too many of us already.
I also don't push hot air outside my house. When it's hot, it's hot.
The people who blindly say that it's nothing, or that this is just a "cycle" selectively ignore certain facts. This has happened in a 100 year or less period, which is NO CYCLE. It's a result of artificial(abnormal) influence put on it by humanity. Cycles happen over thousands of years, and there has been no asteroid strike or supervolcanic eruption. You can continue to delude yourselves, but I have no doubt that God will deal with those who ignored and continued to destroy His earth. The rest should think about what they are leaving their posterity....Eden or Hell.......
...the earth was way warmer when the dinosaurs walked the earth...And no humen were witnessing that.
I think ya'll are missing a big point here. Isn't climate change a symptom of a larger problem?
7 billion living on a planet meant for 200M - 1 Billion.
What could go wrong?
...
In the 70s everyone was talking about the cooling.
NASA says the upper atmosphere is cooling now...from the Russian volcano erruption (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/sulfur-spewing-russian-volcano-turning-sunsets-purple) this summer....
..from the Russian volcano erruption (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/09/sulfur-spewing-russian-volcano-turning-sunsets-purple) this summer....
Climate change is really happening and its been brought on by mankind. ....
I do actually it's real. It's bad. Maybe you notice little since your country is so huge. But we are f"ed.
What are you doing to save the planet!
The only thing that heats the earth is the sun during the day, and the infrared heat during the night. Period, end of discussion.
Isn't it sad that the same clowns that take trips to Epstein island to have children are the same clowns that push global warming (cough al gore cough). It's a money grab to steel your money for the New World government and to put you in permenant fear. Then they will start a depopulation agenda.
You people who believe this BS need to seriously take a weather and climate class and learn how the earth works. Stop letting satanic freaks dictate your lives.
The only thing that heats the earth is the sun during the day, and the infrared heat during the night. Period, end of discussion.
Isn't it sad that the same clowns that take trips to Epstein island to have children are the same clowns that push global warming (cough al gore cough). It's a money grab to steel your money for the New World government and to put you in permenant fear. Then they will start a depopulation agenda.
You people who believe this BS need to seriously take a weather and climate class and learn how the earth works. Stop letting satanic freaks dictate your lives.
Dmon,
are you saying the sun only shines during the day? Where does the infrared heat come from? Sorry but your statement doesnt make sense to me,cuz I know it's night here but it's daytime in Japan so the sun is still shining.
I am shocked... The Netherlands is built under sea level kinda like new Orleans... Of course the ocean is going to take it back!!!!Just as a side note: The Gulf stream pulls the sea level lower on the American continent and if it stops or radically changes, the US East Coast will go west. So the Netherlands may not suffer that much. But if the Gulf stream changes it will cause a much colder weather in Central and Northern Europe. And teach the British to drink cold beer...
Oklahoma was part of an inland sea!!!! Are you telling me man made climate change took my ocean front property away...
Guess he forgot that unlike the moon the Earth rotates.
Dmon,
are you saying the sun only shines during the day? Where does the infrared heat come from? Sorry but your statement doesnt make sense to me,cuz I know it's night here but it's daytime in Japan so the sun is still shining.
Climate change is a fact,always has been what's up for debate is,does mankind have an effect.
Co2 is only one of many gasses that cause greenhouse effect,wait a few years when the permafrost melts in my country and releases methane thats been trapped for eons.
Get back to me then.
:salute
PS: O2 levels were much higher when the dinos roamed the plains.
Infrared heat comes from the Earth's core during the night. It slightly heats up the earths atmosphere. When there is a cloud cover during the night, the heat gets trapped and it's slightly warmer. During the day, the suns heats up the earth, on a cloudy day, it's typically cooler. That's it. It's been the suns cycles that has warmed or cooled the earth for billions of years.
Co2 does not heat up the earth. It's a natural substance that breaks down in the atmosphere as it rises. A greenhouse is a perfect example, plenty of Co2 is actually great for the climate. It means there is more water in the atmosphere. Co2 and water would actually cool the atmosphere if it were to get too hot (condensation and rain during a low pressure system). It's the same reason why deserts are hotter than tropical climates. There are less molecules in the air for the suns Ray's to bounce off of.
Pollution does not heat up the planet. Pollution is bad. Pollution should be worked on to reduce poor air quality (aka china and south east Asia) but that has absolutely 0 to do with the earths climate and seasons in relation to the sun.
You don't feel any volcanic pollution from the last 5 that went off. You don't feel China's pollution in europe. That is because those compounds break down in the atmosphere over time. They don't just flow over to Antarctica and make all of the ice melt. That's not how it works.
Believe me when I tell that an evil society of clowns are trying to subvert the people to put them in a one world government. This is how they are stealing your money to fund it. Cough Paris accord cough. Don't fall for it.
Heh, the ones that really think they are in control, which was started long long ago by the Rockefellers and others like them
The Trilatteral commission
:D
Wow! :noid
Green house gases trap heat that would be reflected back into space,cities act like heat sinks and once the permafrost melts further well like I said get back to me then.
Climate change has always been,whats up for debate is whether or not man has made an influence on the change one way or the other.I'd like to see if you can survive at 30% O2 levels,sort of what it was at when the dinos were on the plains.
:salute
Yes, it's very deep. The CFR, SES, and Trilateral.
I'd suggest watching George Webb and Amazing Polly on YouTube. They are incredible researchers that break down who these individuals are and what they are really doing. George Webb craps all over the cover-up MSM.
:salute
Best power source is nuclear -- with the caveat that you can't use stupid designs (such as Fukushima) or do stupid things (such as Chernobyl).
There are fine nuclear designs, and it could be that the world moves to more nuclear power in the future.
Agreed.yup. Sodium (Molten salt) / thorium nuclear reactors to be exact.
The best thing that could happen for the Earth and the rest of it's non-human occupants is for us to wipe ourselves out. Humanity serves absolutely no good purpose.
Overpopulation causes climate change right??? We're all gonna DIE in 12, 10, 7, years right??? Wait a sec.. Weren't we already supposed to be dead, or underwater, or whatever, decades ago???
Since humans are a destructive species, and you wanna save the world??? OK then.. All you, "eat the babies", and "save the world" zealots, should just suck a bullet.. :neener:
That'll fix that problem in a hurry.. I'll even donate a bullet, just to do my part.. :cheers:
Global warming is not my greatest concern.
From all of the fake science reports and theorizing regarding "climate change" and scare tactics to fool people around the world and get people, country's governments to flood wasted money towards a false cause
They have suckered and scared most into thinking it's actually real
Read up on when they found the hole in the ozone, then they claimed it was getting bigger, then they claimed that the earth's ozone layer was burning away because of fluorocarbons (stuff like carbon dioxide, HVAC refrigerants R-12, R-22, R-512, etc) were banned and outlawed around that what was it the 1992 agreement all to be found as a false truth
Ozone is a natural occurrence that is like earth's own cleaning aid (like using bleach to clean your white linen), happening most times during lightening/thunderstorms....
The hole in the ozone is over Antarctica and was found around 1947 and it shrinks and enlarges and shrinks over and over, never has gotten any bigger
Yet this was Big business way to increase their profit margins and force the world to pay more as they phased out the refrigerants I posted earlier, then created new refrigerants like R-410 and R-134 then turn around and rinse repeat the process of suckering people to change over and convert their HVAC&R systems to use the new refrigerants
Nothing new under the Sun! History always repeats itself
It is up to each individual to see through the BS and find the truth
The Earth's history shows that "climate change" is nothing more than Nature's way of working, nothing more-or-less
TC
However, the Pentagon considers it the greatest threat. Go figure. :O
However, the Pentagon considers it the greatest threat. Go figure. :O
I bet the Pentagon loves Yellow Cake with their Coffee too! :x
And there your logic on this matter rests. Imagined conspiracy.
If you trust known proven liars, then the problem is yours..
Fool me once, ya know??? In the Pentagons case, many times!
China has built the largest solar farm in the world.
And yet, why are the Chinese citizens always wearing surgeons' masks ?
Seems China's motivation for putting their alternative energy program into high gear is confusing to some.
So what ur saying is wearing surgeons masks is normal in China?
However, the Pentagon considers it the greatest threat. Go figure. :O
They changed their mind in 2016 for some reason.
Spirited Conversation, I like it! :aok
What I'm saying is you seem confused that pollution could be a concern and a driving force for change.
Oh and btw... u really think that we puny humans can make a world wide difference?
We have in several ways (not just emissions). And it's the difference part that many seem to have trouble grasping. Our global ecosystem has always been a balancing act. Too much of one thing or another throws it out of whack. Learning this and reducing the amount of a negative quantity isn't the crisis. Refusing to can be.
It is going to get worse, draughts, famine, death and destruction....some will make it and some want
But it is coming, .....like a snowball rolling down hill, headed for hell.......
First, u must be a lawyer wanna be because ur use of "can be" is typical lawyer speak (reference all the lawyer commercials :rofl
Second, have u ever been taught the FACT that the earth has a wobble (every 13-26 thousand yrs I believe) but it has also been shown
that wobble deviates (reference the mini ice age in the late 1800s through the early 1900s)
Third, in ur opinion, what is to be done with people, animals and every living thing that passes methane (farts) and how would the powers that be
do to alleviate that short of population control, destroying most (if not all) animals without destroying the ecosystem
Fourth, I'm sorry but people complain about the supposed "global catastrophe but it has happened before and it will happen again... get used to the idea :cheers:
TC my personal view is that Climate Change is not the problem, it is the solution.
There is simply too many people on the planet.
None of this is particularly controversial.
However, the Pentagon considers it the greatest threat. Go figure. :O
We need an ice-free Antarctica for more liebensraum.
Zack for Emperor of New Antarctica!
As i started this thread.
1. There is more forests in Western Europe than there was 100 years ago
2. There are more forests in China than there was in 1970
3. Population will stop at 9 billion
4. There will be a problem with not enough people.
5. Child mortality in Africa is at the same levels as Europe in the 1950's
6. There are more fat people dying than dying from lack if food.
3. Do you know something the rest of us doesn't?
4. Not enough people translate to lack of future food source related to question #3
6. Viable food source not working out in the long term related to question #3
That "imminent mini ice age" from the 70's was predicted for 60-70 years later, 2030 -2040. The current prediction for a cooling period is for the same time frame. It will likely be a very different climate change debate in 10 years....it's cooling because there are no sunspots (https://eos.org/research-spotlights/the-thermosphere-responds-to-a-weaker-than-normal-solar-cycle). The Thermosphere has absolutely nothing to do with climate change and it mostly has to do with satellite altitudes as the thickness of the thermosphere is largely dependant on solar radiation and how to plan for said satellite orbits. The thermosphere increases in size with increased solar activity (i.e. increased sunspots) and shrinks and cools during solar minimum. Science.
This is why NASA's reporting about the Thermosphere cooling is important. It's evidence supporting a theory that doesn't require changing data to make a model work. There are also the previous occurrences in the historical record.
Not saying the world will end, but parts of it will be much colder than we're used to or prepared for.
...it's cooling because there are no sunspots (https://eos.org/research-spotlights/the-thermosphere-responds-to-a-weaker-than-normal-solar-cycle). The Thermosphere has absolutely nothing to do with climate change and it mostly has to do with satellite altitudes as the thickness of the thermosphere is largely dependant on solar radiation and how to plan for said satellite orbits. The thermosphere increases in size with increased solar activity (i.e. increased sunspots) and shrinks and cools during solar minimum. Science.
Regardless or not if the planet is warming or cooling, the destruction of habitat and the consumption of our limited supply of natural resources on land and the ocean is not sustainable. And our fresh water supplies on the are getting less and less. (https://www.undispatch.com/bad-news-world-will-begin-running-water-2050-good-news-not-2050-yet/) Again, science.
The bad news, the planet's CO2 levels are still rising (https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-relentless-rise-of-carbon-dioxide/). Science.
Funny thing about science. It's true whether or not you choose to believe in it.
How dare you :old:
You will be telling me Dinosaurs were real next :old:
How dare you :old::rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl In best Madalyn Kahn voice from Blazing Saddles "It's Twue It's Twue!"
You will be telling me Dinosaurs were real next :old:
How dare you :old:
You will be telling me Dinosaurs were real next :old:
The thing that those who say 'Oh look the predictions didn't come true' is that things have been done that changed the outcome.
... 1970's ice age, definitely not -- not unless people think we would have an ice age today except that we put out a lot of CO2, which saved us.
...
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl In best Madalyn Kahn voice from Blazing Saddles "It's Twue It's Twue!"
Maybe you missed my post. The 1970's ice age was predicted for 2030-2040
Maunder minimum
For my contribution I went and got me a zero emissions vehicle.
M1009 CUCV.
When I took it to get it smog tested they told me it didn't need one!
I highly doubt we will have an ice age by 2030, or 2040, or 2170.
Toba erupted millions of years ago, almost wiped out life on earth..
Tambora eruption in 1815, shaded the whole world for years..
Caused the "year without a summer", massive crop failures..
I'd say that is pretty fair evidence that Volcanoes are a major
contributor to climate change.. Far more than puny humans are..
I used to be a climate change denier - I always thought that the destruction of our natural resources and wildlife habitat was the issue. I thought that the scientists were fear mongers - after research money and attention/fame the more they could scream about how the planet is melting.
And then the scientific articles others produced were peer-reviewed. And reviewed. And reviewed again. And again. And no one could easily refute the science they used to come to their analysis. Right up there on fear-mongering about GMO foods. Science proved me wrong there too.
I certainly haven't seen a good scientifically peer-reviewed article that the temperatures AREN'T increasing. I also haven't seen any scientifically proven articles that the oceans are getting colder. I also haven't seen any scientifically proven articles that CO2 levels are decreasing.
And for a lot of us who tend not to trust what they see or hear from the media or government, climate change can be a really harsh debate. I tend not to trust either. Just give me the facts..but the facts are SO hard to trust.
And I must say, this is perhaps one of the nicest discussions on climate change I've seen in a while. Everyone is well, quite polite about the interactions. No name-calling or giving wedgies.
Though Arlo is still a putz. But that's just Arlo! :neener:
The Club of Rome invented climate change to create a new one-world government revolution. Don't fall for it. There thousands of scientists who have written studies to stand up against this fraud. You don't see them because they don't get left-wing media attention. Climate change is a fraud to put you in perpetual fear. Follow the money. Like I said, when the celebs start rapidly moving off the coast of Miami, then maybe I'll take them seriously. Until then, it's a money grab to fund the UN to take over the sovereignty of independent nations.
All valid points Bozon. Isn't the bigger issue though the consumption economic model we're all living buy today just isn't sustainable? And that same model is causing all the pollution and ecosystem harm?
Kinda along the lines - why does me going 'green' mean I have to buy something?
I can skin a buck and run a trot line.......
and I got plenty ammo for .my old. 45
...and the Polar bears are supposed to die off but there are so dam many of them. They were a mascot that has been left behind.
What are you doing to save the planet!Most of my decisions that lead to more efficient way of life are primarily done to save money so can`t really credit those as saving the planet. I do take environmental concerns into account when I give my vote for something (elections, public campaign etc). Attitude towards the environment is definitely one criteria I take into account when I am deciding if I want to keep communicating with a person or supporting a business etc.
Are you suggesting that the politicians that are impeding the climate scientists should shut up and get out of the way?
Back to Arlo's point, Reagan said it best!
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
I don't expect governments of any nation to fix global climate and ecology issues. The planet will fix it for us. Shake us off like a bad cold.
Powerful Boomer energy emanating from this thread
Took us too the moon, didn't it...
So what has the Soy generation produced???
Social Credit Scores, and Drag Queen Story Hour???
Took us too the moon, didn't it...
So what has the Soy generation produced???
Social Credit Scores, and Drag Queen Story Hour???
Yeah well..
When my life becomes unbearable, I will make my final arrangements..
And check out on the 9mm express!
Don't plan on having a lifetime of work, drained away, fighting
for a little bit more life.. Nope, not me!
Took us too the moon, didn't it...
People who believe in man made climate change are conspiracy theorist. Case closed.
See how that works. You don't even have to challenge them anymore. Just call them conspiracy theorist and laugh in their face.
Thanks CIA.
Yeah well..
When my life becomes unbearable, I will make my final arrangements..
And check out on the 9mm express!
Don't plan on having a lifetime of work, drained away, fighting
for a little bit more life.. Nope, not me!
Amen
Fighting what? Daft people?Stupid humans make me sad.
Stupid people cheer me up, it highlights i am awesome :rofl
Took us too the moon, didn't it...
So what has the Soy generation produced???
Social Credit Scores, and Drag Queen Story Hour???
Fighting what? Daft people?
you forgot to ask me if I was triggered
Why would you be triggered???
People who believe in man made climate change are conspiracy theorist. Case closed.Such behaviour would put people not believing in climate change in the same boat with flat earthers and anti-vaxxers. Conspiracy theorists, lunatics, money hungry opportunists etc exist on both sides.
See how that works. You don't even have to challenge them anymore. Just call them conspiracy theorist and laugh in their face.
Thanks CIA.
Why would you be triggered???
Your going to the hot place :)
Ouuu Dickens. Reminds me of some hot apple cider. Dickens Hot Apple Cider to be exact. Wife likes a hot Dickens Cider in the morning after a brisk walk. Pastors wife sometimes tags along - she too likes a hot Dickens cider with my wife. I serve them both up nice and hot in the morning before I head off to work after their walk.
:D
Yeah well..:aok
When my life becomes unbearable, I will make my final arrangements..
And check out on the 9mm express!
Don't plan on having a lifetime of work, drained away, fighting
for a little bit more life.. Nope, not me!
Such behaviour would put people not believing in climate change in the same boat with flat earthers and anti-vaxxers. Conspiracy theorists, lunatics, money hungry opportunists etc exist on both sides.
What are you doing to save the planet!
What are you doing to save the planet!
I keep a little earth in a jar.
I hope for interest.
I tried lighting my farts for a while, but that proved occasionally painful. So I tried it on one of my cows... I have no hair left. I'm at a loss. :neener:
He will eventualy sail his 20 million pound boat around the world saving polar bears with that swedish retard girl
that swedish retard girl
So much for the thread maintaining decency.
This is for Zack:
I wonder what it accomplishes to throw insults and derogatory comments at people you don't understand or that you disagree with. I have always believed that learning as much as you possibly can about the other side's point of view will either re-enforce your beliefs or better yet, create the need for second thought and even more learning.
So much for the thread maintaining decency.
this thread is interesting. not because I believe one group over the other. it's because sometimes you finally understand strange posts that leave you with this wth do you mean feeling.
I dont understand everything about this global warming, to me, it's just a guess. but I do believe parts of it based on what I see and have experienced in my life. for example, I wasnt born here, never seen smog, only what I saw in movies or tv and newspapers. anyway, I had been living in los angeles for 3 months, going to highschool and it was hard on me, smog was bad, you could stand on one side of the football field and barely able to see the houses 200 yards from where you were. this one night it was windy, wow the whole house was shaking at times. when I woke up I went to school and I looked to my right and was amazed there were mountains about 40 or so miles away, maybe less and they were big mountains, the sky was clear, the wind had blown all the smog out to the ocean. that's when they started with the air quality management, companies were up in arms, saying it would be the end of los angeles, it would cost too much money, cost jobs, whatever. to this day we still have smog, but it's not as bad as it was 40 years ago. some of what was tried, failed miserable and caused other problems. and to this day we still have people complaining that it was a waste of resources and money, they go with "see, we still have smog" but ignore the part of how worst would it have gotten if nothing was done about it.
anyway, the part of this thread that I found interesting is DONT FEED YOUR PARANOIA. I couldnt play today in the scenario because I got drunk, tripped and hurt my pinky finger, I ignored it, now the pain goes all the way to my elbow and it's painful to twist my wrist. but I bet if I look hard enough on the web and the dark web, I will find out that the axis had a plan to stop some of us from playing today in the scenario. I can find testimonials of other people that will agree with me that there's conspiracies in every game where some players will do anything to stop others from playing. if I believe hard enough, I bet that guy who bought me 4 shots of tequila at the legion, who I have never seen before and nobody knows who he is, is part of some axis evil plan to stop me from playing. prove me wrong.
sounds ridiculous doesnt it, but is it really less, more, or equal to some of the ridiculous things some of you guys believe in. and if you do enough research, you will find binders and plans that some people have "discovered" that will prove you right and the others wrong.
all you need is a belief and you can find info to prove you are right and others wrong, not matter how wrong you can be.
semp
Hey Arlo, how many trillions did the "never before Audited' Pentagon lose again?
:rofl :rofl semp! :aok (and you should have included this emoticon at the end ----> :ahand
so think, what will we lose or gain if we do nothing or something. it is just that simple.
People often don't go farther than a very inadequate surface analysis when they say that.
In reality, we have X resources to deploy on a multitude of potential issues: global warming, global cooling, asteroid strikes, Carrington events, bad governments, bad economies, food, security, geopolitical maneuvering, healthcare, education, poverty, crime, pollution, chaotic population migration, demographic problems, etc.
If you use Z of that towards global warming (Z is trillions of dollars, here), you are not using Z on any of those other items. Which ones have a better expected benefit for expenditure of Z?
Many of those other things are as important (in my view, more important), with greater downsides if you blow it, and much higher probability of not being a scientific fad, than global warming.
So, calling Greta Thunberg a retard is just being fiscally conservative especially since climate change, chaotic migration, pollution, food, security and 'demographic problems' are now to be considered completely unrelated to each other with some more fiscally important than others. I've never seen so many straws nonsensically grasped at nor rationalization so irrationally practiced.
Your level of emotional outrage is precisely why they use little children to push an agenda. It ain't right.
Your level of emotional outrage is precisely why they use little children to push an agenda. It ain't right.
So . . .
You are totally hallucinating any connection between what I said in my post and insults to Greta Thunberg. I was replying to Semp's post, specifically the part I clearly quoted at the top of my own post. Did you know that starting off a reply like yours with "So" is a high-probability tell for cognitive dissonance?
Also, what I posted is neither conservative nor non-conservative. It is just how systems work, as generally described by the field of macroeconomics. I highly recommend Basic Economics, by Sowell. It's one of the best books I've ever read. I think it is one of the most-important books in the world.
You are totally hallucinating any connection between what I said in my post and insults to Greta Thunberg. I was replying to Semp's post, specifically the part I clearly quoted at the top of my own post. Did you know that starting off a reply like yours with "So" is a high-probability tell for cognitive dissonance?
Also, what I posted is neither conservative nor non-conservative. It is just how systems work, as generally described by the field of macroeconomics. I highly recommend Basic Economics, by Sowell. It's one of the best books I've ever read. I think it is one of the most-important books in the world.
Not that Sowell's book is not a landmark, I prefer the more landmark economics books. I am not an economist myself nor have I studied it for the sake of studying economics. I have, however, read most eighteenth, nineteenth, and twentieth century staple economic works. Works from the likes of Keynes, Marx, Smith, Friedman, and (dare I say) Hayek I find truly fascinating not for what they say necessarily, but the influence they've had on history in one respect or another. I find The O'Club in Aces High BBS a historically horrendous place to have academic and scholarly discussions. But, that is just from my personal experience.
I wasn't just replying to that one post.
And, um, no .... parsing and cherry-picking out bits and pieces of a big picture problem isn't how 'things work.' You might reconsider what books are 'most-important.' You can't 'macro-economic' climate change away. ;)
What you don't seem to get -
The entire thread is a Zack troll.
Even then, it didn't go completely south until Zack's Greta 'joke' (something you thought was quite funny - making you as immature as Zack).
Then my post also included that your division of climate versus migration versus hunger, etc. and how finances could only go to one or the other as if they weren't interrelated was a broken perception, love of macroeconomics or not.
You don't have to like that. Obviously you don't have to even understand that.
I stated, early on, how this thread was a waste of everyone's time no matter what their opinion on the subject since it's not really a discussion about either understanding or solution seeking (as has been made obvious).
Gibberish.
The question is; Do you want to burn, or freeze?
Here's what I know:
semp is better looking than the british dweeb
After I save the planet, I'm going to save the solar system. After that it's on to the milky way for more saving. Don't thank me now.
Greta Thunberg is a teenager mad at her parents. She is not a victim of climate change. She's as much a poster child for climate change as a skinny polar bear that's been hibernating all winter. The logic is that we should listen to her because she knows less than we do. 2+2=5. Believe or be shunned.
It was the best of times it was the worst of times. :D
Actually TC, you missed the irony of my post, :bolt:
semp
I do not believe that Polar Bears hibernate.
me, I say stay in the middle and see what good comes out of it. some money maybe wasted but some will come out with something useful.
Half way still means trillions of dollars.
Bulbs in my home are rated for 22 years. If they are all on, they use less energy than one 100 watt bulb that I had before the flood.
That Gretas parents are a actor and a opera singer..... not jobs but elitist vocations!
They have told their impaired child that the world is going to end in 10 years ( she HAS mental condition - FACT)
Her parents are now famous and will now get more work and coverage!
Where the hell does a 16 kid get all these ideas from???
All the people applauding this girl are the elites and opera winfrey watching sterile classes.
As usual these types- Do as i say not as i do.
I put a 26mm Dellorto on my Lambretta.... more Co2 = more trees
( she HAS mental condition - FACT)
mine are also rated for 22 years, but the thingy you put them on is rated for 6 days.
semp
It's called Autism. She's Autistic. You spelled it wrong to begin with. I suspect you have a mental condition.
What you angry about?
Facts dont care about your feelings Mr Angry
Don't confuse anger for standing up for decency. Your opinion on climate change requiring derogatory personal attacks on a young girl that feels differently, and strongly so, than you undercuts anything more rational (or even humorously fanciful) you could have posted instead. The problem isn't me, sir. You received a negative review among your favorable ones. It's still attention. Thrive.
Mine screw into a socket. What are you referring to? I am curious.
Question - Exactly who are they? (No generalities, please.) I've not seen any indication that she isn't being genuine, whether one agrees with her or not.
According to that internet article, several times more than their entire budget since the creation of the War Department.
Don't believe every story you read.
Look who is trolling now :)
Genuine about what? The world is going to end in 10 years? :rofl
This is why everything has gone to toejam, people putting up with roadkill from spoilt middleclass individuals who’s carbon footprint outstrips the normal person in the street.
When India and China are fully online in 20 years time it wont matter what the west’s population thinks or says :rofl
Sweden is falling to pieces due to government policy, this is just a false flag for the stupid middleclass of said country. (Grenade attacks, bombings and sexual attacks up by 80% in Sweden)
Lets save the Polar bears :rofl
Half way still means trillions of dollars.
I understand you're designating yourself the proxy but that was merely a (disjointed) response and not an answer (which is rather more trollish). :aok
Disjointed :rofl
Your so fat your fat :banana:
The light fixtures they installed are the cheap kind. So the bulbs only last about 6 months
semp
You're.
Fatty
:)Up here in Canada, fatty has a WHOLE different meaning...
Up here in Canada, fatty has a WHOLE different meaning...
Just saying...
(https://rakesprogress.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/smokingpot.jpg)
And after one of those, you won't care about climate change or your favourite football team looking a game, or that your job sucks, or if you're a Republican or a Democrat. Heck, you won't even care about not playing Aces High. Cause, well, you're high. :x
Sinner!
Up here in Canada, fatty has a WHOLE different meaning...
Just saying...
(https://rakesprogress.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/smokingpot.jpg)
And after one of those, you won't care about climate change or your favourite football team losing a game, or that your job sucks, or if you're a Republican or a Democrat. Heck, you won't even care about not playing Aces High. Cause, well, you're high.
(https://www.powerstroke.org/forum/images/smilies/canada2_2.gif)
If only every country could get on board
I believe all the of the Democracies could if their citizenry actually gave a couple of seconds of logical thought to the issue and could stop being lazy or deluded regarding their election cycle's effect on policy making.Should be required to burn one before any major decision.
Don't confuse anger for standing up for decency. Your opinion on climate change requiring derogatory personal attacks on a young girl that feels differently, and strongly so, than you undercuts anything more rational (or even humorously fanciful) you could have posted instead. The problem isn't me, sir. You received a negative review among your favorable ones. It's still attention. Thrive.
And so why does not the Government reduce spending to compensate?
I mean my gawd, shrimp walking on tread mills?
It's all academic IMO due to China and some extent India. Two countries whose populations make up 1/3 of the planet almost. China doesn't give an F squared about climate change, and will continue to be the largest producer of "evil co2" without a care in the world about meeting global climate change prevention numbers or whatever. Not to mention that both of these countries are responsible for 90 to 95 percent of the world's plastic and garbage going into the oceans - a fact that even the most left of the leftist climate change supporters do not dispute. So, if neither of these countries plan on doing much about climate change, what's the point of bankrupting the West in order to meet some eco-targets regarding emissions? Yes, I realize China is the "world leader" in solar/wind power, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the fossil fuel energy generation, and always will be.
Also, do some research on the NEEM ice core drilling projects in Greenland. The data from these cores show that 10 to 15k years ago up until present day, that the temperatures and co2 levels got much higher than the worst projections are for the year 2100 currently - how did that happen without humanity? A negative doesn't prove a positive, just because the majority of science believes that man made emissions are responsible doesn't prove it, especially when as ^^ the planet got much, much hotter all on its own several times in the last 10k years.
Majority of science? I have not found that proven anywhere.
400 parts per million? 0.04% of the atmosphere is CO2, which is required by plantlife, and some nutters think that's going to DESTROY the planet? Not going to happen.
I believe all the of the Democracies could if their citizenry actually gave a couple of seconds of logical thought to the issue and could stop being lazy or deluded regarding their election cycle's effect on policy making.
Yeahhhhh California is currently learning their lesson about that! Consequences eventually catch up to them.
Please do tell what did we do wrong here in California and what we need to fix.
Please do tell what did we do wrong here in California and what we need to fix.
Semp
Oh I agree, it's just the major talking point that's been used for years now. I think you missed my point.
These people are all dangerously ignorant and incapable of working out the science on their own.
Gee golly where do I even start?
7. More heroin overdoses and drug abuse than ever before in history.
8. Some of the highest taxes on planet robbing the citizens blind. Creating astronomical inflation.
I could go on and on.
What a disgrace.
Please do tell what did we do wrong here in California and what we need to fix.
Semp
gonna answer just this 2 questions.]
#7 from the cdc
In 2017, the states with the highest rates of death due to drug overdose were West Virginia (57.8 per 100,000), Ohio (46.3 per 100,000), Pennsylvania (44.3 per 100,000), the District of Columbia (44.0 per 100,000), and Kentucky (37.2 per 100,000).
#8 taxes robbing me blind. If I was to move from california to north carolina my state taxes would be double.
rest of what you wrote is also bs
semp
Thanks for pointing out other liberal crapholes who enjoy killing their population off with drugs.
Like I said. Dazed and VERY confused.
Is it true that said state has had government funding for the homeless, which equates to $100,000 per homeless person?
:rofl
Where has the coin gone? :rofl
Paying some ones wages to investigate the homeless problem?
:rofl
Think of all the benefits and follow-on benefits of studying shrimp walking on treadmills!
I certainly hope this is sarcasm… and if not, name the benefits other
than the states/universities that get the money!!!
Maybe if you read from reputable sites you wouldn't be dazed and confused.
semp
Bulbs in my home are rated for 22 years. If they are all on, they use less energy than one 100 watt bulb that I had before the flood.
gonna answer just this 2 questions.]
#7 from the cdc
In 2017, the states with the highest rates of death due to drug overdose were West Virginia (57.8 per 100,000), Ohio (46.3 per 100,000), Pennsylvania (44.3 per 100,000), the District of Columbia (44.0 per 100,000), and Kentucky (37.2 per 100,000).
#8 taxes robbing me blind. If I was to move from california to north carolina my state taxes would be double.
rest of what you wrote is also bs
semp
If you read my post, I said the most overdoses in history, not the most in the US. :aok
Maybe if you read reputable sources, you wouldn't be blind to so much rampant corruption destroying your state. :D
Also, I meant homlessness in point 2, not poverty.
I certainly hope this is sarcasm… and if not, name the benefits other
than the states/universities that get the money!!!
Well, there's the cardiovascular benefits to the shrimp; and extra money to Silicon Valley startups that are leveraging amazing, new shrimp treadmill technology as well as integrative mobile social media to disrupt paradigms and revolutionize the future of mankind; and new government departments flush with taxpayer cash to wield for employing more government bureaucrats and creating more regulations regarding treadmills, shrimp, and shrimp treadmills.
I can't believe you don't see the benefits here. It's as clear as the benefits of paying people to dig holes and then fill them in, for goodness sake -- one of the pillars of Keynesian policy, which is the accepted best way to run modern economies.
brook the experiment was
Semp, as you point out, I didn't go on any information other than about three words, and so could absolutely not have evaluated the value of that project.
You are absolutely correct that it could be a useful thing that I made fun of in my blundering, incautious post.
And, yes, I do love to eat shrimp! :aok
this is what you said" 7. More heroin overdoses and drug abuse than ever before in history."
also, I never commented on #2. but you did mention taxes on #8, which is what I replied to.
maybe if you read your own posts, you wouldnt be dazed and confused.
semp
:bheadIt's ok Demon Slayer. I feel your pain. Some people like to pee into the wind and then complain they're getting wet and smelly.
:noid
Couldn’t imagine living in Cali not drinking through a straw and getting raped on taxes.
I live in California, we still use straws in bars and restaurants.
semp
Are they the horrible paper ones? I hate those. Some Seattle restaurants do that. I have a grudge against them for that.
I like plastic straws, the way god intended.
next time, treadmill shrimp and beers are on me :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
semp
Semp, if you are ever in the Seattle area, you tell me, and I would be greatly honored to take you out for lunch or dinner. :aok
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Damage has been done real environmentalist organisations have been permanently damaged by these clowns behaviour
Damage has been done real environmentalist organisations have been permanently damaged by these clowns behaviour
Imagine using a child as a pawn for pushing your big government.
Imagine a child feeling the need to spend the rest of her life teaching 'grown-ups' how to care about an environmental crisis because they're self-centered arses. Which 'big government' are you imagining? ;)
Imagine a child that is responsible for what they do.
She seems very responsible, yes. No imagination required here. :D
Imagine a child feeling the need to spend the rest of her life teaching 'grown-ups' how to care about an environmental crisis because they're self-centered arses. Which 'big government' are you imagining? ;)
Sorry law says she can't be held responsible..... even if she kills someone.
Imagine a child who doesn't really understand the world, has never taken a climatology class, or chemistry class even, being put in fear every day of their young life due to propaganda that the world will end if the entire world doesn't destory their industry.
Id say thats psychological manipulation and child abuse.
nope, we still have plastic straws just like everywhere else. the law only applies to sit down restaurants, not bars or fast food places. and even in sit down restaurants, they will give you a straw if you request one.
the law says they cannot give you a straw automatically, you have to request it. it doesnt seem like california really banned straws, does it?
semp
edit: but it seems some people who didnt know any better bought straws for a 1.50 each to make fun of a certain group. now who is the dork. the one who requests a straw or the one who pays 1.50 for each one :ahand
Just wait... the next step is all straws :noid
Tell that to the 12 year old charged with capital murder this year in Texas.
semp
By the end of the Obama 8 years Millennials had been asked questions about babyboomers related to the state of the world at least once a year. A constant response was the old people screwed the world for them and they wanted all the babyboomers to die already and be gone. A large sample group felt that hostility because of the poor economic prospects for paying off their student loan. And a consistent sample group who worshiped at the alter of climate change wanted babyboomers dead becasue they wanted to save the dystopian future that had been spoon fed to them since grade school.
Taking stances on issues is a mirror of age and experience. The very inexperienced, and short on age demographic sadly can vote. So most of their ideas without experience are not their own.
guncrasher, do you want 16 year olds voting because that is what is being talked about now.
I would like to point out, that Godwin's Law has not impacted this thread! WTG guys! Civil discussions indeed. :aok
I would like to point out, that Godwin's Law has not impacted this thread! WTG guys! Civil discussions indeed. :aok
I find it quite interesting that some are trying to turn age into a legal issue regarding taking a stance on an issue.
You look like Woody Allen but fatter!
And i bet you play golf.
I agree on the age issue.
You should not have a point of view based not on age but on weight.
I am a natural athlete :old:
I have massive head
I am a natural athlete :old:
I have massive head
I have gold in 200 meter dash to fridge :old:
I used gold crayon to color it so its boss legit
The foreskin is dead weight. How is that an advantage?
Hint: being uncircumcised gives you an advantage.
semp
The foreskin is dead weight. How is that an advantage?
I had my balls removed to increase jump height. Was done using them anyway.
you pull the skin and make a knot, you wont leak on the way to the bathroom.That sounds like a good tip. :aok
semp
Is that like Yogourt?
ACE drunks Soy milk and has big boobsHey now that’s yarbles! I drink miller lite
Hey now that’s yarbles! I drink miller lite
Ahhh a Budweiser product the world over... except in the good ol' USA where they were forced to sell miller lite to Coors.Coors taste like piss.
Coors taste like piss.
Zach gets his milk in bags!
Here in the free mans land we get milk in Jugs. It’s just a little joke lol.
Doesnt everyone? I mean here in Canada we have sold milk in a bag for years,you just put the bag in a pitcher and snip the corner and Bob's your uncle!
Zack,fatty has another meaning in my country,you light them up.
:salute
Canada is full of Soy boysHow do you like your tea? Splash of milk? Or straight black.
That sounds like a good tip. :aok
A yogourt is a primitive hut where sitting cross-legged was first developed.