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Offline Vraciu

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2020, 08:37:37 PM »
I was referring to player behavior. Code won't change that.


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Depends on the type of behavior, but I see your point.
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2020, 09:39:04 PM »
The game doesn't need to be FIXED it needs to be TWEAKED. 

You are correct.  Which was my OP ended with involving player style solutions.

You are definitely on the right track here.   :salute for stating it so well.

I would jump at the chance to be a trainer.  Unfortunately I am not good enough or practiced enough to qualify to teach dogfighting, and that's something an official trainer needs to be able to do.  I would like to be involved in getting new pilots up to speed.  I am looking at ways to present a new pilot's training class.  (by the way, if anyone has ideas on this, I am starting a different thread so we don't hijack this one)
 

Training doesn't mean dogfighting.  Train people with what you know.  Ask the Training staff how you can help.

Even if you got the game you would probably lose the genious behind it. That's what has happened to many companies. If you lose the talent the game is worth nothing.

Don't you think I would keep HiTech on as an advisor?

Maybe we should hold a crowd funded project to provide HT with enough money to advertise on twitch/mixer and youtube?

I don't get adverts on facebook anymore for games so it must mean that game companies have realized how hopeless it is to advertise on facebook.

Ask Dale publicly in the forum and see what the response is.

All these topics and posts seem to point out that we are abundant in so many players who know how to fix the game. 



Well said AK.  :aok

Thanks.  :salute


With all due respect, if you really think there are no changes to this game needed:

1.  Why do you think 99% (>99%?) of the people who started a trial account decided not to pay for an account? 

2.  What happened to the ~700 nightly players we had at one time?  And why is the player count continuing to drop?


If you got something that is working, I'm a big fan of just keeping things steady and let the good times roll.  But when things aren't working, it seems to me eventually you need to be willing to roll the dice and risk change.  Unless you think the down trends are only temporary fluctuation or you believe in Tinkerbell and Magic.


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What do you think happened to all those players?  Do you have any ideas to bring them back?

Double the price.

Illuminate on this one please?

Again,  who are you trying to convince?

Convince is the word I wouldn't use.  Inspire would be the word.

The problem with this thinking is that most suggestions fall into one of two categories:

1. Things that have been tried before, and didn't work.
2. Changes that would make Aces High a completely different game.

If it didn't work before, there is no reason that it would work now.  (But things are different now)  Not that different.

We don't want a different game, we want this one to have more people.

Things tried before in a past situation may work in a current situation.  Maybe, the new situation would have new players ideas.  Better to try then not try at all.


I picked these replies as best correspond to my OP and 2nd Post.  Does anybody want to help make AH better?  If you do, then PM me with what you can do and together we might be a positive effect on the near future of the game.

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2020, 12:24:22 AM »
Curious which aircraft you would pick for the freebie?

Spit5 and 109f. Heck even a P40N.

Great for the European crowd.

Not to hard where they can never get a kill. Turn fairly well and have decent guns.

None have ord.

They are not too easy Where a player would not subscribe anymore to fly those planes for free. A returning vet would not be able to wreck the arena in them.

It would be a great promotion  to get players in the game while saying it's "free to play". Would create much larger fights overall. Would allow people to learn game better before subscribing. Would definitely  encourage and incentivize them to subscribe in order to fly that better plane.

More targets in the sky to fight against along with more maps that are smaller and suited for quicker action, would bring back over 200 a night again.

If Hitech can fix the match play for team match or where players can pick who they are fighting against would be huge as well.

The match play needs to have AI come one at a time, and planes should fly like are supposed to fly. A B17 doing 8G turns would be gamey and a turnoff to many people. Especially  getting ganged by them all at the same time. Players only need one AI to fight against.

No one uses match play anymore for those 2 reasons and it shouldn't be ignored. If it cannot be fixed. Scrap it and do a fighter bowl. Its that simple.


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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2020, 02:55:57 AM »
I believe the flight model was the best in the world right from the start.

The effect of a better or worse simulation on game play is minimal. Of course, it allows players to talk themselves into believing to be flying the real thing, even though it completely misses the aspect of having to operate complex machinery like in reality. And at least trim tabs work the wrong way around.

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2020, 07:04:40 AM »
Just what the world needs...another MAKE ACES HIGH GREAT AGAIN thread  :bhead

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2020, 07:21:44 AM »


Convince is the word I wouldn't use.  Inspire would be the word.



Sorry, I wasn't referring to your post.  Just all the guys that seem to think that if they argue their point until the players on the BBS agree with them that it will somehow bring about a game change.
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2020, 07:40:46 AM »
Sorry, I wasn't referring to your post.  Just all the guys that seem to think that if they argue their point until the players on the BBS agree with them that it will somehow bring about a game change.

No prob.  Wasn't sure.  Thanks for the clarification.  :salute
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2020, 08:07:33 AM »

War Thunder Tanks have a subsciption model, needed in simulator mode (same as War Thunder Planes), but you can buy stuff you desperately need without a subscription (like camoflage, or new planes, tanks, insignias etc).

WarThunder tanks have some things that might or not interest you : the destructable terrain is only a part of the big map, if you want to kill tanks / whatever, you fly to that small part of the world, else you are free to dogfight it out outside of it.
The tankers can roam inside their small world, and sometimes get bombed etc, or shoot somone down with an AAA vehicle.

                                                             
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2020, 08:40:49 AM »
Sorry, I wasn't referring to your post. Just all the guys that seem to think that if they argue their point until the players on the BBS agree with them that it will somehow bring about a game change.

Nobody thinks that. 
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2020, 09:14:07 AM »
Sorry, I wasn't referring to your post.  Just all the guys that seem to think that if they argue their point until the players on the BBS agree with them that it will somehow bring about a game change.

Did anyone force you to read any thread?  If you don't like what is being discussed, simply don't read the thread. 
Isn't it exactly that easy?
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2020, 09:33:03 AM »
Did anyone force you to read any thread?  If you don't like what is being discussed, simply don't read the thread. 
Isn't it exactly that easy?

You didn't like what I posted?
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2020, 09:34:00 AM »
You didn't like what I posted?

You didn't like what I posted?
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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2020, 10:25:13 AM »
People are naturally competetive so its no surprise people compete on the forums as well.

What HT needs is some up and coming ad firm who are looking to make a name for themselves and use all the latest methods/platforms for a small price.

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2020, 10:31:16 AM »
The effect of a better or worse simulation on game play is minimal. Of course, it allows players to talk themselves into believing to be flying the real thing, even though it completely misses the aspect of having to operate complex machinery like in reality. And at least trim tabs work the wrong way around.

I agree that many players don't appreciate how good the flight model is but in fact it does teach you enough to really fly.

The engine management model is simplified on purpose because those things are second nature to a fighter pilot by the time he gets into combat. So flying real aircraft does require additional training.

What do you think is wrong with trim tabs?

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Re: How To Fix The Game
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2020, 10:36:27 AM »
You didn't like what I posted?

Pro tip. Arguing like a teenager hurts your credibility.