Dark Man Cometh???

[SysError]

Got another piece of info here in Washington State.

A friend of a friend, showing strong symptoms, went in for treatment and was sent home with no test being done.

So, out of the three people I know of who asked for testing (two with strong symptoms, one with mild), none got tested.
...

One of our kids, who got sick and is feeling better, couldn't get tested.

However, in the US, if you are a politician or a celebrity you can tested right away - even if you have no symptoms.

Just ask Sen. Lindsey Graham or Reps. Matt Gaetz or Mark Meadows.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/15/politics/lindsey-graham-coronavirus-negative/index.html


For now, I really think that tests should only be made available due to medical symptoms.

It looks as if we as a society are once again lucky to have a politician get a test and have it come back negative!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/03/18/rnc-chairwoman-ronna-mcdaniel-tests-negative-coronavirus/2870836001/


I am sure that front line doctors, nurses, EMTs and really sick people, who cannot get tested, understand how important it is to have the chair of the RNC get access to a test kit.


The women and children who "gave up" their life boat spots to "Captains of Industry" on the Titanic might have had some thoughts that might be useful now.

[SysError]

Meanwhile, over in the "Oh, so this is how Vulture Capitalism works department":
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200317/04381644114/volunteers-3d-print-unobtainable-11000-valve-1-to-keep-covid-19-patients-alive-original-manufacturer-threatens-to-sue.shtml

David Brooks, a Canadian-born American conservative political and cultural commentator, had the following to say:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/shields-and-brooks-on-leadership-in-a-time-of-crisis

I have spent the last week reading about pandemics in the past. And they're not good for social trust. People go into them thinking, I'm going to be a good soldier and citizen for people around me.

But when the fear gets going, they stop seeing each other. They stop caring about each other. They stop volunteering.

I have always wondered why the 1918 Spanish Flu that happened here killed 675,000 Americans.
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And it left no trace on the national culture. And I have always wondered, why was that?

And reading about what it was like, people were ashamed of how they behaved, because they looked after themselves.

And that's understandable. Fear is just this terrible thing. And we haven't really been hit by the raw, gut-wrenching fear of seeing hospitals overwhelmed and stuff like — but we will.

And we sort of need to take moral steps and social steps, as well as we take health steps, to sort of mitigate that.

I hope that we can do better, but i do not know if we will.

[icepac]

Huge difference between travel and socializing now than in 1918.

It's just not a valid comparison.

[FLS]

It looks as if we as a society are once again lucky to have a politician get a test and have it come back negative!

...

 "On the advice of her doctor, @GOPChairwoman was administered a test for COVID-19."

Some people resist learning.

[SysError]

"On the advice of her doctor, @GOPChairwoman was administered a test for COVID-19."

Some people resist learning.

I am sure that her doctor provided "unbiased advice".

Do you know how many people with test orders from doctors are being turned away in the US everyday?  Not only are there stories in the papers, people right here have stories from family and friends.

People who are REALLY sick need the test, not politicians with power, access and influence. 

[Eagler]

Saw a doc on tv today that stated she does not bring packages into her home as the virus lives 24hrs on cardboard/ paper

Up to 3 days on hard surfaces

She lives as if everything is infected all the time to minimize spreading

Sorry if this was already posted

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Eagler

[Hungry]

Read the Book of Acts in the Bible. God instructed all the Christians to pool their money together and killed a husband and wife for hiding some of their money. That means God is a socialist. I'm not, but I believe in helping others, despite the reason they need it. If you say "They're not getting mine!" YOU'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN.

The verse you mention refers to a certain church and a certain set of circumstances, as far back as Adam & Eve God told them when he cast them out of Eden for their sins that they will have to work for what they get from now on

God is not a Socialist

Hungry

[Hungry]

I am sure that her doctor provided "unbiased advice".

Do you know how many people with test orders from doctors are being turned away in the US everyday?  Not only are there stories in the papers, people right here have stories from family and friends.

People who are REALLY sick need the test, not politicians with power, access and influence.

Rather than focus on politicians who get tests, (our elected officials who direct and govern this country) what about the New Jersey Nets basketball team, in some ways at least the politicians may have some role in keeping our country on track, the athletes and celebrity's should stand in line with the rest of us.  Although I read that the Nets owner arranged and paid for the testing through private sources, which opens up a whole nuther can o worms.

Just saw where up to maybe 8 NBA teams have privately funded tests for their entire teams and staff, where's that fit for you?

Hungry

[Hungry]

Just saw this, Tylenol instead of Ibuprofen (Advil)?

A World Health Organization (WHO) spokesperson recommended this week that those suffering from the symptoms of COVID-19 avoid taking ibuprofen.

The suggestion came after French officials warned that the drug could actually worsen the effects of the virus.

When asked about the study, WHO spokesman Christian Lindemeier told reporters in Geneva that United Nations health agency experts were "looking into this to give further guidance."

"In the meantime, we recommend using [paracetamol], and do not use ibuprofen as a self-medication. That's important," he said, according to the AFP.

However, WHO spokeswoman Ashley Baldwin told Fox News in an email that the WHO is "gathering further evidence" before making a formal recommendation, and that she was not aware of any "clinical or population-based data on this topic."
French Health Minister Olivier Veran sent out a warning after a recent study published in The Lancet medical journal found that when combined with anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofen, an enzyme could facilitate more COVID-19 infections and worsen symptoms.

However, there is no confirmed scientific evidence that ibuprofen could worsen coronavirus infections.

Hungry

[morfiend]

I help others all the time. That is not socialism.


Socialism is taking from those that do and giving to those that do not. So soon no one does because... well why when you can just sit while others support you. That is till everyone is pretty much doing the same. Then there is no ability to better yourself, no reason to work harder or even work.

 Not to get political but I think you are confusing socialism and communism.In my version of socialism everyone pays a little so no one pays a lot.


  I've been wrong before and might be this time! That said I live where we have social medicine and our cost per patient per outcome is about 1/2 what it is in the US.

  Now someone is going to come along and tell me how I'm taxed to death and will have to pay taxes all my life. If I told you what I paid in taxes last year you'd be like...   How'd he get away with that.


   

PS: I hate this political nonsense,what cant we be friends... hey there's a song in there somewhere.

[Busher]

Just saw where up to maybe 8 NBA teams have privately funded tests for their entire teams and staff, where's that fit for you?

Hungry

Just one of those things you learn to live with. Entitlement due social status isn't right but it is reality.

[Mister Fork]

Most of us Canadian's are like this watching what is happening down south...


And then there's another lot of us doing this, hoping the USA doesn't implode in the next 6 months.
 

[FLS]

I am sure that her doctor provided "unbiased advice".

Do you know how many people with test orders from doctors are being turned away in the US everyday?  Not only are there stories in the papers, people right here have stories from family and friends.

People who are REALLY sick need the test, not politicians with power, access and influence.

Politicians get sick too. People don't get tests unless the Doctors, who still have limited tests available, think they need them. Most of the people with the virus do not need hospitalization, they just need to stay home until they get better. You believe all the stupid lies you hear from the media but standard medical practice is a mystery to you.

[icepac]

This is the scoreboard you want.

All the others are replays and not really live even if they claim to be.

When I search "[LIVE] Coronavirus Pandemic: Real Time Counter, World Map, News" as copied from the title and pasted in the search field, it will not return this one.     Including the name of the youtube channel (roylab) in the search will still not help.   If you search only the channel name, you do get "roylab" and the video shows up below his channel icon but youtube really tries to autocomplete something completely different. 
It's almost as if youtube is trying to keep people from finding the live feed in favor of older information.............perha ps not to cause alarm?    Not really sure.

[CptTrips]

Bandanna's approved as masks for medical personnel?   

Sounds like things are getting desperate:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/03/19/cdc-guidelines-masks-coronavirus-gupta-newday-vpx.cnn