Ruger PC9 Carbine or S&W M&P Sport 2

[Hungry]

I have a Walther P22, fun 22 caliber hand gun 22LR ammo, recently brushed up the wife's skills with it at the indoor range, fits my hand fits her hand and real easy to control while firing,

Two things I did do to it was extended the length of the barrel and went with a competition slide spring, not sure that's the correct term.  The new spring really helped how do I say it, with the rechamber of the ammo and the overall cocking mechanism,  the barrel extension I took off and threw in the bag, made no real difference at an indoor range in terms of distance from target

The only other fireable gun I own at the moment is my 1977 model 19 S&W 357 Magnum, 4 inch barrel, combat hammer, trigger and grips, perfect condition.  I don't think that thing has misfired no matter what ammo I throw at it in the 43 years I've owned it, a real gem.

Funny part is that I still keep it in my 1970's hippie looking patchwork blue jean's bag made to the shape of the pistol

Hungry

 

[FLS]

What I suggest you do is decide what you want the new gun to be suitable for. Your first post mentioned plinking.

If you don't already have a 5.56 sport rifle that's a good choice for being generally useful. You can get .22 versions for cheap practice and fun shooting.

[Hungry]

So I was doing a what if, what if I went with the S&W M&P Sport 2 AR model 10305, I found it about $75.00 higher than normal.

Then I started looking for 5.56 ammo Brass FMJ, started with Federal American Eagle, that's what I use in the 357 just got two boxes of 50 about 3 weeks ago.

Guess what, the US is practically out of 5.56 ammo, and what there is,  talk about hoarding toilet paper, talk about price gouging for N95 masks, these ammo guys win the prize.  What is in stock is practically double the normal price.

Hungry

[FLS]

If it was the normal price it wouldn't be in stock.

The US isn't out of 5.56 or TP. It's just stored in people's homes.

Don't wait until there is an emergency to get emergency supplies.

[Hungry]

If it was the normal price it wouldn't be in stock.

The US isn't out of 5.56 or TP. It's just stored in people's homes.

Don't wait until there is an emergency to get emergency supplies.

"It's just stored in people's homes".  I know, that's why I made the hoarding toilet paper crack

"Don't wait until there is an emergency to get emergency supplies" Solid advice, I was really window shopping, adding up total initial costs, thank heavens

PS We have plenty of ammo for what we have, and toilet paper, lol

Hungry

[Chalenge]

I have three recent purchases and considered the S&W, but finally went with the Ruger AR-556, because my local chain store had one with all the mods I wanted already installed (except a Timney trigger). I have a Savage Axis in 6.5 Creedmoor, a Remington 700 in 7mm, and the Ruger. My favorite is the Savage, even thought the 7mm absolutely blows it out of the water for range. I can hit up to 900 yards with the Ruger, 1,400 with the savage, and 2,000 with the Remington. Probably the glass makes all the difference, though. I use Leupold on all of the above, but recently bought an ancient Unertl 25 power and mounted it to the Remington.

All of the above I reload with Lapua brass, Berger bullets, and CCI Primers, but I never found a powder that was common to all three cartridges.

This coming Fall, if the travel quarantine is lifted, I will be hunting Dall and Elk. All year round I do coyote hunts by request of the stock owners (cattle), so my intention is to suppress the Ruger at some point. The, or maybe I'll just go with a Daniel Defense, or Wilson Combat model with their proprietary suppressor.

This hobby is getting to be really popular with the preppers, and supplies can be hard to acquire!

[Hungry]

One of the sons just got the Ruger 8542 AR556, just last night he ran 150 rounds through it to check/setup the sights and play with it a bit, he added that now that the state (Illinois) is closing up, the range is non essential and closed but the sales front end is open. 

Thanks for the info, I bet that you could have added "This hobby is getting to be really popular and expensive", lol

Since I retired I've been picking up woodworking pieces, table saw band saw and the like, woodworking is definitely cheaper to get into than guns, my oversize garage would never make it for a shooting range but makes a great little woodshop, lol (I know, everything has its high end mid range and low end)

Thanks again for posting

Hungry

[OldNitro]

I warned more than a month ago, get what ya need now, it will be harder to
get anything after all the sheep are awake to the Kung Flu threat.. They're awake now..
But, it's just the flu right, no worries..

Buy the 5.56 Rifle..
My wife has a 10.5 inch AR Pistol, she loves it, aside from being really LOUD!

[Hungry]

I warned more than a month ago, get what ya need now, it will be harder to
get anything after all the sheep are awake to the Kung Flu threat.. They're awake now..
But, it's just the flu right, no worries..

Buy the 5.56 Rifle..
My wife has a 10.5 inch AR Pistol, she loves it, aside from being really LOUD!

Sounds like a plan, talked to the gun shop yesterday and let them know that I wouldn't be taking the Ruger Carbine, the AR itself I can find at a reasonable price, however like you say there is no ammo right now. 

Saw a YouTube this am from a gun shop owner in Indiana.  The majority of his recent customers are all first time buyers, further they are buying whatever he has ammo for not what they really might need for target practice or home defense.

Hungry

[OldNitro]

Hungry:

The manufacturers are crankin out the 5.56 now, 24/7.. Shipment of foreign AK ammo has stopped!

But there is a terrible scalping/gouging problem right now on all the service calibers..
I don't even know when that will stop for the foreseeable future, greedy bahstuds..

I understand why people are buying whatever they can get ammo for..
In the Normal world, an AR would be the go to choice.. But I don't know when Normal
world will return.. The USA as we knew it might NEVER return, god help us,  ..

Lever guns, in magnum pistol calibers, or like .30/30, are a viable option..
If you already have a .357, then a lever rifle greatly increases the performance of that Cartridge!

Would be a decent option in a pinch! And in your state, might be easier to get than a semiauto..

[Hungry]

Hungry:

The manufacturers are crankin out the 5.56 now, 24/7.. Shipment of foreign AK ammo has stopped!

But there is a terrible scalping/gouging problem right now on all the service calibers..
I don't even know when that will stop for the foreseeable future, greedy bahstuds..

I understand why people are buying whatever they can get ammo for..
In the Normal world, an AR would be the go to choice.. But I don't know when Normal
world will return.. The USA as we knew it might NEVER return, god help us,  ..

Lever guns, in magnum pistol calibers, or like .30/30 are a viable option..
If you already have a .357, then a lever rifle greatly increases the performance of that Cartridge!
Would be a decent option in a pinch!

I understand the ammo shop website Cheap and Dirty is really taking a lot of heat even to the point of a future boycott among gun owners for basically doubling the prices of all ammo

Hungry

[OldNitro]

Yep, CTD is on my Crap list.. Mega stupid, 
Gun people tend to have a long memory..

They lost me as a customer..

[CptTrips]

Yep, CTD is on my Crap list.. Mega stupid, 
Gun people tend to have a long memory..

They lost me as a customer..

Really?  Isn't that just Capitalism?

Price is a function of Supply:Demand balance.

Are you asking for Socialist price controls? 

[Hungry]

Really?  Isn't that just Capitalism?

Price is a function of Supply:Demand balance.

Are you asking for Socialist price controls? 

Will you please......

Hungry

[Hajo]

Just purchased a Vortex Spitfire scope for my .556.  Weather breaks I'll mount and sight it.