Trees at the end of the runway

[Puma44]

The point of this game is the accessibility. It is nice to hop into a big arena with a bunch of planes in a war-like setting without having to worry about engine temperature, RPM overspeeds, mixture settings, we have a bloody in-game E6B too! I personally don't mind taxiing, but it is nice to have a beer and not have to run through a whole checklist to start flying, especially when introducing the game to new sim players.

You shouldn't have to worry about silly stuff like TREES at the end of the runway. Period. I can buy a resource-limited decision, but there is NO excuse to deliberately keep the game this way and just tell people that they need to be better pilots.

Simple:  Take off toward the ocean.......NOT THE TREES.  It’s only silly, and a problem, because you insist on it being so.  And yes, if you can’t figure out how to not takeoff into an obstacle, you do need to be a better pilot.

[Shuffler]

Some folks are just not B29 capable.

[guncrasher]

here's a hack.  if you know for sure you gonna crash, bail out. you'll save some perks.


semp

[AKKuya]

Some folks are just not B29 capable.

Is that why you feel safe in your teeny weeny P-38? 

[Arlo]

There's a reason why I play Aces High and not War Thunder mate.

Hey, you're the one talking about flying skill not including missing trees .... mate.

[Shuffler]

Is that why you feel safe in your teeny weeny P-38? 

Well I was posting because I have a PHD in trees. 

You know my 38 usually has more wood in the wings than metal.

[FESS67]

Simple:  Take off toward the ocean.......NOT THE TREES.  It’s only silly, and a problem, because you insist on it being so.  And yes, if you can’t figure out how to not takeoff into an obstacle, you do need to be a better pilot.

With all due respect, the OP posted an image where the trees were at the end of the runway leading to the ocean.

I am with Fugi.  When I read the first page of this thread I was amazed at how many responses were of the nature of "Dude, you are an idiot, why didn't you do something else...."   Of course in your minds that may not have been what you meant however that is exactly how it came across.  Then some double down and post films of them doing it just to make sure the guy knows he is a dweeb and he should accept the judgement.

My view is the game is for fun and putting little gotchas in the way is not a desired condition.  You need to attract players not piss them off to the point they go play one of the many alternatives.

[The Fugitive]

With all due respect, the OP posted an image where the trees were at the end of the runway leading to the ocean.

I am with Fugi.  When I read the first page of this thread I was amazed at how many responses were of the nature of "Dude, you are an idiot, why didn't you do something else...."   Of course in your minds that may not have been what you meant however that is exactly how it came across.  Then some double down and post films of them doing it just to make sure the guy knows he is a dweeb and he should accept the judgement.

My view is the game is for fun and putting little gotchas in the way is not a desired condition.  You need to attract players not piss them off to the point they go play one of the many alternatives.

Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding! We have a Winner!!

It is a sign of the times. HTC and yes even the players should be going out of their way to make it easier and more fun for new players these days. In the old days there were few other games to play. Today there are so many more options that any little thing, that to us is a non issue, is something that can cause this community to lose another player.

[LCADolby]

When is FESS going to join us in the MA for a round of Shoosty Planey?

[Shuffler]

With all due respect, the OP posted an image where the trees were at the end of the runway leading to the ocean.

I am with Fugi.  When I read the first page of this thread I was amazed at how many responses were of the nature of "Dude, you are an idiot, why didn't you do something else...."   Of course in your minds that may not have been what you meant however that is exactly how it came across.  Then some double down and post films of them doing it just to make sure the guy knows he is a dweeb and he should accept the judgement.

My view is the game is for fun and putting little gotchas in the way is not a desired condition.  You need to attract players not piss them off to the point they go play one of the many alternatives.

You mean dumb it down.... just say it.

Helping folks is good...  changing game for them is not.

[Arlo]

He cancelled his account before he even created the thread. Most of us gave him advice *and* support - we just didn't give him sympathy and a mob to fit his foot stomping. It was a blame and complain thread with no room for other consideration, whatsoever. Give sympathy where it is actually due. Fugi and Fess oughta go physically find that guy and give him alternating hugs.

[Puma44]

"Dude, you are an idiot, why didn't you do something else...."

That’s what his continuous complaining about trees at the end of the runway sounded like.  He is one who complains and whines because a game isn’t going his way, takes his ball, and cries his way home.

[perdue3]

The first response essentially called him a dumb pilot. Not a great response to an obviously new guy.

[Wiley]

Respectfully, are you guys honestly saying that trees at the end of the runways are intended gameplay?  Pretty sure I've seen HT remove them when they were reported at some point.

If I were building an airfield, I personally would likely take down unnecessary obstacles at the end of runways, I believe that's what they did IRL.  I'm skeptical that they're there intentionally.

With that said, it's a good idea to look in the direction you're heading when you're taking off too.

Wiley.

[Arlo]

The first response essentially called him a dumb pilot. Not a great response to an obviously new guy.

After two years of building 344 bomber perks I'd say that he wasn't that new. I offered to fly with him. Hell, I offered him most of my perks (if HT would allow and transfer them in this 'special' case). Many of us offered him some valuable tips on how not to blow his perks by crashing into trees via reasonable steps to avoid such. Unbeknownst to us, he'd already quit. Not seeing a case for the community needing to be ashamed for 'bullying the fellow into quitting.'

He may reconsider. He may not. It's not the community's job to beg him to stay or come back or join him in chastising HT. As much as I want to retain players, my sympathies require something more sympathetic .... not merely pathetic.