I am truly amazed at how "off the rails" this thread has gone. It was initiated by the approaching date. Had it been closer to July 19, I would have also ask for remembrance of Al Haynes, Bill Records, Dudley Dvorak and Dennis Fitch.
I'm sure you would have.Thankfully very few professional pilots are faced with "all or nothing" emergencies
And yet we've seen what happens when poorly trained crews face them. We've also seen how mature, modest, quiet professionals behave after they succeed in walking away from them. It is most certainly not the way Sullen has done it.
but to compare those incidents to one's personal accomplishments in a Simulator is intellectually corrupt.
You have gone full scale on the localizer. Execute the missed and try again.
If simulators and what we learn from them and in them were "intellectually corrupt" we would still be doing rides in the jets themselves--and we would be crashing a lot of airplanes, both in training and the real world. Simulators are completely irreplaceable tools for teaching, learning, and evaluation. What you do in training you'll do in real life, good or bad.
Sullen did the only thing he could have in the situation--unless he wanted to do something stupid like try to return to the airport or make KTEB. It's the exact same thing others have done, only, I'll argue, it was actually easier in many respects. My experience in the simulator pre-dating this so-called "miracle" shows I'm right, you're not. My training and experience saved the [simulated] day just like thousands of my colleagues would have done, including in real life were it to come to that.
If you screw-up a simulator ditching the check pilot's debrief pales in comparison to the simulator cab filling with ice cold water.
They barely got their feet wet (and had they not screwed up the checklist they wouldn't have gotten even
that little bit of water in the jet). That thing would have been a hazard to navigation for years regardless. And I'm not talking about an emergency evac over the wings--that hat tip goes ENTIRELY to the Flight Attendants who are completely ignored in this event--I'm focused on the act of getting that Bus down in one piece. Sullen put the jet in the water which was his only good option. I can pick 100 Captains at random out of the phone book who would have done the exact same thing--and perhaps done it better.
One member seems to have a personal dislike for Chesley Sullenberger but I might surmise at the risk of incurring HiTech's wrath, that this dislike has it's foundation in this statement:
“For the first time in American history, a president has repeatedly shown utter and vulgar contempt and disrespect for those who have served and died serving our country,” the former pilot wrote. “While I am not surprised, I am disgusted by the current occupant of the Oval Office.”
With that, I would ask HiTech to close or delete the entire thread and I apologize to all for starting it.
This slanderous/libelous quote [from Sullen] is a completely unmerited, unwarranted, baseless, and entirely idiotic statement from a man [Sullen] who likes seeing himself on TV long after his five minutes of fame expired. There is not one shred of truth to what he [Sullen] claimed. NOT ONE. It was (hopefully) the last in a long line of utterly ridiculous, uneducated, self-important tripe stemming from that arrogant, overrated, media-appointed water-walker [Sullen].
Super Storm Sandy!
Poloar Vortex!!!
Miracle on the Hudson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Gag*
Meanwhile, more than one crew PER DAY in the US alone successfully land airplanes after inflight smoke events (my buddy's wife actually did it twice in one day because MX screwed up the repair) and not one of them has been [self-]elevated to the position of cultural icon or Presidential Kingmaker. It's really freaking twisted and should not be allowed to go by unaddressed just because some are too blinded by bias/hype to do so.
I *GUARANTEE* you if I changed the person referenced in that quote and went all over TV blabbing my mouth without being asked you would condemn me faster than you could pick up your cell phone no matter how many "miracles" I had pulled off.
