Unsportsmanlike game play

[CptTrips]

he also doesn't coad don't be a dick ....  but it has been said before

I take it you are out of compelling arguments?

[CptTrips]

I think it's more a SA thing. Just because you think you are in a sandbox doesn't mean you behave like a child.

I've seen GV'ers on this very forum state that if tanks are engaged in fights and not within the airfield perimeter, that it is unsportsmanlike to fly by in a fighter bomber and drop an egg on them.

Is that a new standard all are obligated to abide by?  If I drop an egg on a tank (if you could ever see the damn things), am I acting child-like?

Or is that some BS "standard" some GV'er would like to believe is real? 

How do I tell which is which?  Who gets to decide for me which activities are "sportsmanlike" in the open sandbox Melee?  Who has Hitech assigned that authority?

[Simon]

This is an open sandbox Melee arena.  All players are free to do what ever they feel like within HTC player agreement without exploiting software bug or hacking.  That is the point of open sandbox. 

When you use words like "shamlessness" and "poor behavior" you are implying there are rules that someone isn't following. 

This isn't GTA. It's MMO. Operative word being players. I am not implying or advocating for behavior enforcement through rules. In fact I explicitly stated the opposite.

I am asking for awareness that it's to the benefit of our game if people conduct themselves with respect for the other players' enjoyment and core object of the game. You on the other hand are defending people's right to do what ever they want, despite how it impacts the other players' fun. Why?

[CptTrips]

You on the other hand are defending people's right to do what ever they want

Here I think we've stumbled upon a point of agreement.

I absolutely, 100%, without qualification or reservation, defend other player's right to do what ever the heck they want in the open sandbox Melee combat arena. 

I only recognize these constraints:

1.  Abide by the HTC player agreement
2.  Don't hack the game
3.  Don't intentionally exploit obvious bugs in the software

I was trying to find the actual player agreement text.  I suspect 2 and 3 are already included into 1.  I know they could get you booted. 


That's it.  Period.  Full stop.  I recognize no other constraints other than my whim.

If someone loves egging tanks, even those just involved in tank v tank battles?    Rock on Garth!

If someone wants to drop fighter hangars at a base they have no intention of taking anytime soon?  Rock on Garth!

If 5 guys want to pile on one hapless enemy who got himself in a bad situation? Rock on Garth!

If I'm that guy that 5 guys are piling on because I got stupid? Rock on Garth!

If 20 guys want to drop ack and strafe idjits trying to launch from a capped field? Rock on Garth!


If someone flys by a 1v1 and decides not to join? Rock on Garth!  (Which I usually do for tactical reasons, not ethics.  I just reject anyone else telling me which I should have done.  I do what I please. )



One of my most amusing moments in AH late one night was following a damaged, smoking bomber down to one crate at treetop alt, staying above and just out of gun range.  I let him get within eye sight of the base he was heading toward and then dove and finished him.  Why?  Because it's fricken Westworld. 



He probably thought I was giving him a chivalrous escort.   Sauce for the goose. 

[Simon]

One of my most amusing moments in AH late one night was following a damaged, smoking bomber down to one crate at treetop alt, staying above and just out of gun range.  I let him get within eye sight of the base he was heading toward and then dove and finished him.  Why?  Because it's fricken Westworld. 

He probably thought I was giving him a chivalrous escort.   Sauce for the goose. 

Dick move. An example of the problem of selfish behavior, and being proud of it. Do better and this game will last longer.

[CptTrips]

Dick move. An example of the problem of selfish behavior, and being proud of it. Do better and this game will last longer.

Ah.  A new rule.  I'm not allowed to shoot down a wounded enemy bomber.  (I'm writing all these down.)

Or am I obligated to shoot him down within a certain number of seconds?

Or was it because I had an alt advantage?  I never attack a bomber without an alt advantage.  So I can never shoot down a bomber?

Should I have asked on chan200 if it was OK if I shot at him?  Mother-May-I?  Did he not have a chance to shoot me down?

If that whole time he was radio'ing  friends to meet me at a higher alt at his base, would they be obligated to let me go?

Sooooo many complicated rules. 

(You do realize he didn't actually die in real life, right?)

[Simon]

Learning how not to be a jerk is something your parents should have taught you. I'm asking that people who do know the difference conduct themselves in a more gamesman like manner.

[CptTrips]

Learning how not to be a jerk is something your parents should have taught you. I'm asking that people who do know the difference conduct themselves in a more gamesman like manner.

You keep babbling platitudes, but you never answer the sticky questions.

Let's try a simple one:

Is it unsportsmanlike for me to egg a tank that is not engaged in taking a base?

[TheBug]

A simpler one:

What's the point of the argument?

We should all be asking that.

[SPKmes]

I take it you are out of compelling arguments?

Not at all ....  just keeping it simple...

[CptTrips]

A simpler one:

What's the point of the argument?

We should all be asking that.

I think the original point of the thread was someone feeling entitled to try to tell other players how they should play their $15 worth.

[RichardDarkwood]

I've seen GV'ers on this very forum state that if tanks are engaged in fights and not within the airfield perimeter, that it is unsportsmanlike to fly by in a fighter bomber and drop an egg on them.

THat is what most of the players mainstay is

[CptTrips]

THat is what most of the players mainstay is

Which?

Egging?
GV'ing?
Taking bases?
Or claiming that anyone not flying like they want is being unsportsmanlike?

[RichardDarkwood]

Which?

Egging?
GV'ing?
Taking bases?
Or claiming that anyone not flying like they want is being unsportsmanlike?

egging tanks

[Oldman731]

I absolutely, 100%, without qualification or reservation, defend other player's right to do what ever the heck they want in the open sandbox Melee combat arena. 

No one here contests that.  The point is that it would be a better gaming experience - probably for everyone, but who knows - if people showed a bit more self-restraint.

For example, I doubt that many of us would brag about shooting down a crippled bomber trying to land.  But I may be wrong.

- oldman