Roe Overturned

[DmonSlyr]

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/30/clarence-thomas-claims-covid-vaccines-are-derived-from-the-cells-of-aborted-children-00043483


Whistle-blower exposes emails about them not wanting Fetal Cells to be widely known in use of creating the "vaccine."


https://gettr.com/post/p1ghyt5ace2
"Australia (NSW): Vaccinated are 99% of hospitalized, 97% of admitted to ICU, and 95% of deaths

Even if you account for the "unknown vaccine status", vaccinated account for 95% of deaths.

73% of all deaths are triple or quadruple vaccinated.

This is worse than bad. This is catastrophic."

[zack1234]

Who will save monkey ?

[-gg-]

A guy at work developed an auto-immune disease recently. A couple weeks ago he started getting round, purple circles on his skin. They look like deep bruises.

His doctor told him that it could have been caused by the vaccine.

We were talking the other day and he told me that he thinks it was the vaccine. He's pro-vaccine. He's about 30 years old. He told me he's never sick, bit after getting the shot he's been sick all the time and now has an auto-immune disease.

I if the doctor thinks it could have been the vaccine and he said the doctor says yes. He said the doctor also told him that they didn't want to take the vaccine but were forced to. Some quit but most of the doctors and nurses got the vaccine.

There's probably no way to prove it was the vaccine, but there's enough crap happening to vaxxed people that it makes me glad I never got the stupid thing.

[zack1234]

I have a rash

But I have had it since 1989

Is it related ?

[Chris79]

I've never been rabid on either side of this issue.  Generally I prefer the idea of things being handled at the state level.   

But I guess my first thought is, should slavery be decided at the state level?

I’m not entirely sure, but I think they passed an amendment or some such thing that made it a federal deal.

[zack1234]

Slavery?

In China today

Or a hundred years ago in America

I cannot sleep at night because of slavery in the US a hundred years ago

The UK is still not happy about Rome enslaving Britons in AD71

Slavery in the US you people

[CptTrips]

I’m not entirely sure, but I think they passed an amendment or some such thing that made it a federal deal.

The point was, "should". 

Would you prefer that amendment be struck and simply allow each state to decide the issue of slavery?

If someone gave you the power to make that happen, is the state a better place to decide issues like that? 
(Assume that there is a law that a states slaves can't be transported across state lines.)

If not, why not?

[MiloMorai]

Slavery?

In China today

Or a hundred years ago in America

I cannot sleep at night because of slavery in the US a hundred years ago

The UK is still not happy about Rome enslaving Britons in AD71

Slavery in the US you people

Slave ships left GB for Africa, picked up slaves for America and then brought cotton to GB.

[sparky127]

A SC ruling isn't anywhere NEAR the same thing as a Constitutional Amendment.  I don't think there was nearly as much division in the US in 1865 as there is today when the 13th was ratified.  I believe it would be nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get ANY amendment ratified today with the current political climate in the US.  Mainly, because the lefties would SURELY try to attach some sort of leftist bull pucky to it.  Also...  I believe the .gov fedzilla has already FAR overreached its authority in this "loose band of independent States".

[-gg-]

The roe versus Wade decision isn't a law. Just is not a constitutional right and that each state can still make it a law however they want.

[Meatwad]

(Image removed from quote.)

Looks like that brand is made in mexico.

So they are angry mexican hoes 

[sparky127]

Jeej gets it.  PLUS...  The vast majority of Americans are perfectly fine with slavery, as long as they can continue to get giant Chinese-made TVs at Walmart for $300.

[CptTrips]

Jeej gets it.  PLUS...  The vast majority of Americans are perfectly fine with slavery, as long as they can continue to get giant Chinese-made TVs at Walmart for $300.

I think you and GG are missing the fundamental question I was getting at.

Let's try a thought experiment.

Lets assume that despite prior SC rulings, abortion is not in fact covered by right to privacy.
Lets assume that the 13th amendment had never been passed.

Assuming this state as tabula rasa for our experiment. 

Are these issues so fundamental that they need to be decided at the federal level (by law or amendment)?
Or should fundamental issues like these be left to the vagrancies of individual states?

I'm not telling you what the answer should be, I'm just tying to get a forthright, honest answer without deflection.

Basically, are the some issues so fundamental that they should to be decided at a federal level?
Or should everything such as slavery, abortion, civil rights always be decided at the state level?




 

[-gg-]

The supreme court only rules on whether something is in the constitution or not. Abortion is not a right embedded in the constitution. The previous ruling that it fell under the right of privacy not valid

[CptTrips]

The supreme court only rules on whether something is in the constitution or not. Abortion is not a right embedded in the constitution. The previous ruling that it fell under the right of privacy not valid

Again, that is not what I'm asking you.  I'm going to assume you don't just have a reading comprehension problem.  I'm going to assume you are just not comfortable answering the question I asked.

Or maybe you didn't even bother to read my question.  Either way, we're done I guess.