Follow the science

[guncrasher]

As I know nothing about you, except what you have shared here...you know nothing about me as the above statement goes and it's none of your business

Sorry no abortions here...caused or paid for..except by my taxes

Eagler

so you had abortion paid by your taxes? I i get your point.

but I don't understand what you call drunk hoes. I had my share but not once I called them drunk hoes as that would also make me one.

get off your high horse. no go ever got pregnant without assistance from a man.


semp

[Eagler]

Some of us don't appreciate our tax dollars going to planned parenthood type outfits where the money's are used for this...

That is what I meant to be clear

No high horse here, just think everyone should be responsible for their actions

Have a nice day semp!

Eagler

[guncrasher]

Some of us don't appreciate our tax dollars going to planned parenthood type outfits where the money's are used for this...

That is what I meant to be clear

No high horse here, just think everyone should be responsible for their actions

Have a nice day semp!

Eagler

cool I understand that. but it's the name calling. 

semp

[Arlo]

Just to be even clearer ... not everyone has an abortion because they really wanted one.

[zack1234]

Just to be even clearer ... not everyone has an abortion because they really wanted one.

The majority destroy the unborn because they cannot keep their legs closed.

Always others to blame.

No responsibility for anything

Drug addicts
Crimminals
Welfare scroungers
The list is endless

Always someone else to blame

China will outlast the US…fact

You lot mobilised for the Ukraine yet?

Thought not

What next month ?

[RotBaron]

Although the fetal heart begins beating as early as the 5th week after the LMP, your ability to detect it will be limited by your equipment.
An ultrasound machine usually will enable you to see a heartbeat by 5 to 6 weeks gestation if equipped with a vaginal probe. Abdominal ultrasound will usually see the heartbeat by the 7th-8th week of pregnancy. - https://oacapps.med.jhmi.edu/OBGYN-101/Text/Pregnancy/fetal_heart_beat.htm


Go set them straight at Johns Hopkins semp, they don’t know what they’re talking, but you do 

[guncrasher]

Although the fetal heart begins beating as early as the 5th week after the LMP, your ability to detect it will be limited by your equipment.
An ultrasound machine usually will enable you to see a heartbeat by 5 to 6 weeks gestation if equipped with a vaginal probe. Abdominal ultrasound will usually see the heartbeat by the 7th-8th week of pregnancy. - https://oacapps.med.jhmi.edu/OBGYN-101/Text/Pregnancy/fetal_heart_beat.htm


Go set them straight at Johns Hopkins semp, they don’t know what they’re talking, but you do 

from your link.


If you use a Doppler ultrasound fetal heartbeat detector, you can, with effort, usually hear the heartbeat by 12-14 weeks gestation and routinely after that.

    You aren't really hearing the heartbeat. You are hearing the amplified "beat frequency" generated by the interaction between the outgoing ultrasound signal, and the returning ultrasound signal. When the outgoing signal is reflected back by a moving object (fetal heart), then the returning signal has a slightly higher frequency (if the object is moving toward the transducer), or slightly lower frequency (if the object is moving away). This is called the Doppler shift. Every so often, the peaks and valleys of these slightly different frequencies are superimposed on each other, creating a much louder sound, that happens to be in the audible range. It is this sound that you are hearing.

more on this again from your own link


Using a DeLee stethoscope (equipped with a head-mount), you can sometimes hear the heartbeat by 16 weeks but unless you are practiced with it, you won't hear it until 20 weeks, at which time the mother can usually tell you that she feels the baby moving.

Using a conventional stethoscope, you may never hear the fetal heartbeat.

at 6 weeks what is detected is electric activity on cells that will eventually become the heart.  again that's from your own links.  you even posted that it's just 2 tubes with 4 tubes coming out of them, but no heart.  no heart, no heartbeat.


semp

[FLS]

What's the point? A noticeable heartbeat is one of many developments incidental to growing a baby. It's an arbitrary legal standard in some states. It's not a significant difference.  We all start out as just a bunch of cells,  a skin tag is also a bunch of cells, it doesn't grow into a person, there is a critical difference. Abortion at any stage is a person that won't be born. You may be pro-abortion but don't kid yourself it's just a clump of cells. You're still a clump of cells, just bigger.

[MiloMorai]

All males should be "fixed" except for superior males, like myself, to be used for breeding.

[RotBaron]

Although the fetal heart begins beating as early as the 5th week after the LMP, your ability to detect it will be limited by your equipment.
An ultrasound machine usually will enable you to see a heartbeat by 5 to 6 weeks gestation if equipped with a vaginal probe. Abdominal ultrasound will usually see the heartbeat by the 7th-8th week of pregnancy. - https://oacapps.med.jhmi.edu/OBGYN-101/Text/Pregnancy/fetal_heart_beat.htm


Go set them straight at Johns Hopkins semp, they don’t know what they’re talking, but you do 

I never said one thing about “hearing” it, YOU did.

Why is Johns Hopkins and all the other links calling it a heartbeat if as you say there isn’t one 

[guncrasher]

I never said one thing about “hearing” it, YOU did.

Why is Johns Hopkins and all the other links calling it a heartbeat if as you say there isn’t one 

my bad misunderstood this.

Follow the science is what we’re told by all these federal and international agenciesabout climate change, covid, etc.

Except…well…, in this case:

Six weeks after conception, the unborn child’s heartbeat is detectable — but began beating before then. At week three, neural development begins. At week four, the eyes, ears, and respiratory systems begin to form. At week six, the mouth and lips are present. At week seven, the embryo looks like a baby.

There’s lots more of course however, they’d rather not have to think about that, just call it a fetus and anything goes.

since at 6 weeks there's no heart, how can it detect a heartbeat?  your own links.


semp

[RotBaron]

Removed for too graphic of image. Just hope some of you "get the picture" of what abortion really looks like.

Should have left it up. Since they are so proud of supporting this barbaric and archaic form of murder, they should have to look at it. 

[RotBaron]

Proving his point...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/washing-aborted-fetuses/

Snopes is biased, very left leaning bias. However, I’m sure that matters none to you.

Second, but much more important, what are you trying to dispute? Do you disagree that aborted children would appear that way? Are you disputing those are aborted children?

[Shuffler]

Some folks are ok killing children and some are not.

[Tig]

Simple fact is that kids need families and families need kids. Anyone who says otherwise isn't okay in the head.