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Offline RotBaron

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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2022, 08:03:54 PM »
Most limited players are limited by themselves.

When there’s only a fight and targets between two countries, would you switch to the 3rd country where there is little to no fight in order not to have your plane set limited?
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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2022, 08:13:33 PM »
When there’s only a fight and targets between two countries, would you switch to the 3rd country where there is little to no fight in order not to have your plane set limited?


Happens all the time with auto-switch.  In fact, it's the way auto-switch is programmed.  And yet, somehow we manage to find fights in that lonely third country.

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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2022, 10:02:48 PM »
The point being missed by most so far is that ENY swings are DRASTIC when player #’s are low, further complicating gameplay. 

What does ENY do for the game when there’s less than 15 players on each country other than frustrate many players?
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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2022, 06:26:31 AM »
It is always fun to see other players suffer from ENY the same way i have been for over 10 years. Hehe :devil

ENYways ENY will not go away. I accepted that. But i do think there should be an overhaul though, together with a perk system overhaul.

Once upon a time i suggested ENY should only affect the perk points needed to select a plane and the planes below 15 ENY or so should be perked. Back than i made a detailed list of what each plane should cost. Top planes like a pony should cost something like 15 perks and a spit8 something like 5 and anything worse should be free. During normal ENY levels and get the perk cost increased while there was a big offset in numbers. You can still fly your YAK-3, but its gonna cost ya.

The biggest backlash to this idea was; that players where afraid we would gain more players who would be afraid of loosing there perkies and no longer would turn fight, but e fight and run. #RUNstang And than there where some concerns that some players had HUGE amounts of perkies saved up that would give a unfair advantage. A reset of perkies was suggested but that got the perkcollectors mad, threatening to leave if this where to happen. LOL.

I thought i would share this since i am bored, I need some drama and wanted to share my 2 cents.  :cheers:

PS: i am also a huge supporter of a rolling free to play plane set. With something like a brewster, a F4U, B26 and a 109G14 for instance. So we have some more lawndart new players that might stick around and get a subscription.

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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2022, 09:24:32 AM »
When there’s only a fight and targets between two countries, would you switch to the 3rd country where there is little to no fight in order not to have your plane set limited?

I normally fly the P38J. If it was limited, I'd fly another plane. If there was not a fight on the low number side. Pretty easy to deal with in my opinion.
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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2022, 10:06:05 AM »
I normally fly the P38J. If it was limited, I'd fly another plane. If there was not a fight on the low number side. Pretty easy to deal with in my opinion.

What do you do or would you do when you’re trying to help your teammates capture a base from CV and there’s GVs guarding the town but ENY is so high you can’t take a bomb off the CV?

That will happen with ~30ENY.

Iirc correctly when I’ve seen you play it’s during the day or peak hours, right? I don’t recall seeing you at night over the last 6 months if not longer.

ENY  becomes a bigger issue at night, which is when I play most often - so I see it:
Last night, Bish 8 players, Knights 18, Rooks 12. Only Knights had ENY of 14.5 

Very little activity on Bish/Knight front for hours, as is common….

Some of you could use to drop in at times other than your usual (for those that still play). Morning is different than day, day different than evenings, night different than late night….etc
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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2022, 11:40:21 AM »
What do you do or would you do when you’re trying to help your teammates capture a base from CV and there’s GVs guarding the town but ENY is so high you can’t take a bomb off the CV?

That will happen with ~30ENY.

Iirc correctly when I’ve seen you play it’s during the day or peak hours, right? I don’t recall seeing you at night over the last 6 months if not longer.

ENY  becomes a bigger issue at night, which is when I play most often - so I see it:
Last night, Bish 8 players, Knights 18, Rooks 12. Only Knights had ENY of 14.5 

Very little activity on Bish/Knight front for hours, as is common….

Some of you could use to drop in at times other than your usual (for those that still play). Morning is different than day, day different than evenings, night different than late night….etc

When I get time to play it is usually in the later evenings, 7pm -10pm central. If there is a fight, it's a fight. If they get the base... so be it. The whole idea is the fight for me. You try to hold them off but that is really just to extend the fight. We all have different ideas about the game and what we want to do. Mine is just for the fight, each and every fight. For me, the bases are just a way to get a fight going. The only thing that really affects my game is when there is not a red plane to come knock pieces off my 38.  :aok
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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2022, 11:57:39 AM »
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What do you do or would you do when you’re trying to help your teammates capture a base from CV and there’s GVs guarding the town but ENY is so high you can’t take a bomb off the CV?
That will happen with ~30ENY.


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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2022, 12:52:39 PM »
When I get time to play it is usually in the later evenings, 7pm -10pm central. If there is a fight, it's a fight. If they get the base... so be it. The whole idea is the fight for me. You try to hold them off but that is really just to extend the fight. We all have different ideas about the game and what we want to do. Mine is just for the fight, each and every fight. For me, the bases are just a way to get a fight going. The only thing that really affects my game is when there is not a red plane to come knock pieces off my 38.  :aok

Yeah you play right during prime time. Thing Is, between 12am - 5pm, the #s are under 50 players. In the AM the #s are under 20 sometimes. If you go to the low #s side. Their ain't a plane to shoot and you'd probably have to fly 6-7 sectors to fight 2-3 guys maybe, depending on the map. With that few of #s keeping players logged in should be the incentive, not giving them one to log off if they are country loyal. Or don't want to switch to a side with no action. If no one is on the rooks, that's because the map is too large and not enough players to fulfill the playability of the map.
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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2022, 01:15:58 PM »
Advanced AI for the lower sides so that the numbers stay even would fix this issue imo...say a minimum of 50 on each side

Like Shuffler it's only the a2a fight for me

Care less who wins a base or a map

At least AI could be programmed to fight and not run for ack or its buddies

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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2022, 04:06:42 PM »
The point being missed by most so far is that ENY swings are DRASTIC when player #’s are low, further complicating gameplay. 

What does ENY do for the game when there’s less than 15 players on each country other than frustrate many players?

Changes in ENY are tricky. You cant just set it up so all planes have a perk because new players dont start with and take for ever to earn perks. Perking ponies and yaks and those that dont have the perks..... and eventually will jump into which ever next plane they think thing they have an advantage with.... spit16, LA7. Perk those next?

ENY at low numbers is an issue only because the numbers have a big swing with only a few people moving. Complaining never made Hitech make a change, however you give him data and he might. Start tracking the numbers and how fast things swing. I know there is already a population number below which ENY doesnt have any effect. If you can track the numbers for a week or two, or maybe a month and present them to Hitech you might be able to get him to raise that limit where ENY has no effect.

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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2022, 05:45:07 PM »
I normally fly the P38J. If it was limited, I'd fly another plane. If there was not a fight on the low number side. Pretty easy to deal with in my opinion.
my whole issue is I'm committed to flying planes that create the fight at a base. This hasn't been about flying lancs I fly b17'/ b24. 20 eny planes. If I am unable to create the fight while being able to defend myself properly there is no point to invest up to an hr of my life just to fail.

It comes down to having to switch sides to balance or log way too much for me these days. That is the worst feeling. Not ready to log but unable to play the way I want which keeps the fight going. Hope to see HiTech do something about this. Saddens my heart to see this game dying but I've made a promise to myself and I'm sticking to it.

I really appreciate how healthy this conversation has been so far :cheers: <S>
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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2022, 11:37:53 PM »
Not a complicated issue if it hurts the game get rid of it. Im  at the point where I just log off when its high. Three sides makes it pointless.

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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2022, 01:50:31 AM »
my whole issue is I'm committed to flying planes that create the fight at a base.

If we had more players with ^ this approach and less parasitic ones the whole MA activity would be a lot more enjoyable which I suggest some players have lost sight of.  :salute

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Re: Please fix the eny problem
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2022, 08:01:59 AM »
If you are on a side with 10 players do you want to see a side with 50 players attacking you with bombers and ponies? Without a better idea, ENY is here to stay. Being without it, or something like it, is not an option. We all know it is not perfect.... so what is your idea to replace it?

Fugitive states it best when suggesting change to HiTech, bring the numbers with your ideas.

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