Players killing game with boring play

[CptTrips]

some technical anti-horde coding might work, but I suspect it is too late to introduce such a change.

That's the essential dilemma of AH, isn't it.

"I have this pain-point.  I want it fixed.  But by Cod, you're not allowed to change a single thing!"

Good luck with that.

[oboe]

I think if we achieved perfect balance somehow, programmatically or otherwise, the result might be that none of the sides would be able get sustained land grab drives going, and the maps would stay up a long, long time.  Then we’d be complaining about maps that stay up too long…

[Eagler]

Maps should be timed and changed with the winner being whoever is ahead..

I think the timing should be shorter than the average win time

Eagler

[Shane]

Easy enough to change the map uptime? It changes automagically already if up for a week?  Make it 4 days and increase the perks awarded for a win?

It's not perfect balance that's desired, you're right; it's the overly imbalanced times that are being discussed.

I think if we achieved perfect balance somehow, programmatically or otherwise, the result might be that none of the sides would be able get sustained land grab drives going, and the maps would stay up a long, long time.  Then we’d be complaining about maps that stay up too long…

[Animl-AW]

Numbers are naturally lower during summer.

And numbers seem to be trending up, more often I see iver 100 in the MA i see more returning players posted than those leaving.

That said, other sim numbers are dropping. Would be great if other sims are as fun as they look, they aren’t. All that glitters is nit gold.

[Chris79]

Had a high ranking player in a tiffy last night that dragged me from ship ack to base ack and back and all while staying higher and booming then running from my k4..

..until ack hit my oil and rad and I had to ditch

Boring to the point of logging off

Eagler

Hmm, let me guess, either the GroBadmiral, or a sandwich.

[Animl-AW]

I prolly souldn't chime in,.. but...<shrug>
Could this all just be the difference between a AH vet and a newbie?

Code doesn't fix everything, anyone who thinks it does is about to bloat the game into the abyss. Show them a cool way and their butt will follow.

You'll get more done with sugar than you will salt.

IMO, Not all players have the same intentions, and that's the glory of this game, everyone can play it as they choose, fly any AC they want, whenever they want, how ever they want. Nothing in the MA is scripted.

There's people who don't play the way I/we did 20-30 yrs ago.

Day play is much different then night play,..it COULD be the age of the players, OR god bless we have newbies. Younger and newer players may not play like you, YET. Everyone starts somewhere.

The ironic part to me, I could take this entire board back 25-30 years and it still has the same content as AW boards, identical. All the same complaints.

it's all good. If you're angry that means the game has it's hook in your mouth. A bad game doesn't carry much passion from players.

I'm glad HT doesn't jump to implement every demand.

That said, things others perceive as obnoxious don't supersede the fact we still have the game to play.

2 cents.

[Shane]

Here's today's morning update (8:30am cst) Where's the fun here for either rook or knit players?  This will last all morning until early afternoon.  These are long time players, not newbies (seems the system has been kicking newbies to knits - not the sweetest of deals depending on time of day. 

You know how in times past you could (and can in evenings) find some other guy(s) and just meet somewhere on the map for some fun fights? Not happening in morning with any of these players.

How long the returnees might stay is the pending issue.  I let in '11 (system issues)  came back in'17 and only stuck around for 3 months because i struggled to find fun.  Came back in '21 (same system as '17) and decided to find a different level of fun, so I learned the bombsite and did more gv-ing... but the struggle to find fun in the non-primetime hours is what drives some away and has a spillover effect into primetime.

This creates a salty environment, not a sweet one. 

You're saying history is repeating itself, but there's no AW coming into replace AH this time.

I prolly souldn't chime in,.. but...<shrug>
Could this all just be the difference between a AH vet and a newbie?

Show them a cool way and their butt will follow.

You'll get more done with sugar than you will salt.

IMO, Not all players have the same intentions, and that's the glory of this game, everyone can play it as they choose, fly any AC they want, whenever they want, how ever they want. Nothing in the MA is scripted.

There's people who don't play the way I/we did 20-30 yrs ago.

Day play is much different then night play,..it COULD be the age of the players, OR god bless we have newbies. Younger and newer players may not play like you, YET. Everyone starts somewhere.

The ironic part to me, I could take this entire board back 25-30 years and it still has the same content as AW boards, identical. All the same complaints.

it's all good. If you're angry that means the game has it's hook in your mouth. A bad game doesn't carry much passion from players.

I'm glad HT doesn't jump to implement every demand.

That said, things others perceive as obnoxious don't supersede the fact we still have the game to play.

2 cents.

[Animl-AW]

Here's today's morning update (8:30am cst) Where's the fun here for either rook or knit players?  This will last all morning until early afternoon.  These are long time players, not newbies (seems the system has been kicking newbies to knits - not the sweetest of deals depending on time of day. 

You know how in times past you could (and can in evenings) find some other guy(s) and just meet somewhere on the map for some fun fights? Not happening in morning with any of these players.

How long the returnees might stay is the pending issue.  I let in '11 (system issues)  came back in'17 and only stuck around for 3 months because i struggled to find fun.  Came back in '21 (same system as '17) and decided to find a different level of fun, so I learned the bombsite and did more gv-ing... but the struggle to find fun in the non-primetime hours is what drives some away and has a spillover effect into primetime.

This creates a salty environment, not a sweet one. 

You're saying history is repeating itself, but there's no AW coming into replace AH this time.

1) AH didn’t replace AW due to game-play. Its the same. AW coding was outdated and needed a 100% re-write, there was no will to invest in that.

2) Every time I’ve played (which is not daily/nightly) Knits are outnumbered.

Pretty much, any code, in any game, can be worked around. Its a lot of whack-a-mole, when it comes to “equal” game-play. Good thing the map resets.

Sounds like the real game-play many seek is in scenarios/events.

Many of us, in the past, just looked at MAs as just practice for scenarios.  To many of us scenarios were the epic part of the sim/game.

To each their own. I understand your point, it carries validity, but I cannot debate opinion. Everyone has their own perspective.

[Dadtallica]

Here's today's morning update (8:30am cst) Where's the fun here for either rook or knit players?  This will last all morning until early afternoon.  These are long time players, not newbies (seems the system has been kicking newbies to knits - not the sweetest of deals depending on time of day. 

You know how in times past you could (and can in evenings) find some other guy(s) and just meet somewhere on the map for some fun fights? Not happening in morning with any of these players.

How long the returnees might stay is the pending issue.  I let in '11 (system issues)  came back in'17 and only stuck around for 3 months because i struggled to find fun.  Came back in '21 (same system as '17) and decided to find a different level of fun, so I learned the bombsite and did more gv-ing... but the struggle to find fun in the non-primetime hours is what drives some away and has a spillover effect into primetime.

This creates a salty environment, not a sweet one. 

You're saying history is repeating itself, but there's no AW coming into replace AH this time.

Seriously… give it a rest. Nobody needs updates, this point is moot.

[icepac]

If you're bored, then you're boring.

[Shane]

It's more of - if you're boring, you bore others. Who then being bored... often.. leave.

If you're bored, then you're boring.

[Dadtallica]

It's more of - if you're boring, you bore others. Who then being bored... often.. leave.

This has become boring. Hence you are a bore. Your math.

[Shane]

I've stated I'm not yet bored, still here even. Just remarking on how boring game play is affecting the overall state of the game. 

Your logic is... about as expansive as your bish ride or die ethos, amusing, and not as informed as you might think, but ultimately misplaced.

This has become boring. Hence you are a bore. Your math.

[Dadtallica]

Nope, I placed it where it was intended.