and the ford pinto was bad?

[knorB]

No doubt true.  You folks manage to earn your image.

Understand that it might not be what you think it is.

- oldman

So you’re good with thieves on some lvl . Noted.

[knorB]

A friend has a EV they are proud of,…even after they told me they went from Chitcago to west coast…having to stop every  2.5- 3.5 hrs to change ge for an hr b fore hitting the road again. IF you could find a charging station. Any e who diesn't know ,.. its a 3-4 day trip on 8-10 hrs of driving. That means they were robbed of 3 hrs per day on turning wheels, which ensured a 4 day trip.

After all that they still. Claim its a great buy. <blank stare>
Some people are just too proud to admit a bad udea.

Around town, ok, cross country, not so much

Not ready for prime time.

Days of s Pinto I drove a 68 Camaro  with Mickey jacked up and Thompson 60s and Craigers
Mags and side pipes.

Agreed on the not ready for the masses. If someone lives in the suburbs and has a relatively short drive to work. Not a bad option as you can charge at home. City dwellers that live in apartments or condominiums?  Where do you charge it at the end of the day?

[Eagler]

The uncontrollable battery fires will make for very nice highway interludes as the odds for pile ups involving one increase with more on the road...

Eagler

[Animl-AW]

Agreed on the not ready for the masses. If someone lives in the suburbs and has a relatively short drive to work. Not a bad option as you can charge at home. City dwellers that live in apartments or condominiums?  Where do you charge it at the end of the day?

People I know in the city had a charging station installed in the garage, if they could.
We haven’t even touched the electrical grid in this convo. We have to do SOMETHING about pollution, this just isn’t ready yet. We are still in prototype phase.

Perpetual engine? Wet dream.

[knorB]

People I know in the city had a charging station installed in the garage, if they could.
We haven’t even touched the electrical grid in this convo. We have to do SOMETHING about pollution, this just isn’t ready yet. We are still in prototype phase.

Perpetual engine? Wet dream.

There is no free lunch. The environmental havoc from producing the batteries alone is scary.

[knorB]

The uncontrollable battery fires will make for very nice highway interludes as the odds for pile ups involving one increase with more on the road...

Eagler

The disposal of the batteries once past service date... what's that going to cost the consumer? It's easy to recycle an internal combustion engine.

[Drano]

EVs are just a fad. I think it's just a proof of concept thing. It kinda works. Fine is you have REALLY short commutes. Long trips are right out for the reasons stated above. Hydrogen fuel will be the answer to all of this. There are multiple projects underway trying to figure out how to separate, store and distribute the most abundant element in the universe safely and cheaply. Refueling a car will take a few minutes as it does with gasoline. It doesn't pollute and is endlessly renewable. It also conveniently burns! Can use it to fuel our cars and trucks. No reason to re-invent the combustion engine. That's already proven that works. Can heat our homes with it too. The best part, since it's all around us, no one will be beholden to any group or country to get it. Just need to crack the code of making it. Big project happening now on this at the university I work at. Hydrogen just has to be it.

[xanax]

EVs are just a fad. I think it's just a proof of concept thing. It kinda works. Fine is you have REALLY short commutes. Long trips are right out for the reasons stated above. Hydrogen fuel will be the answer to all of this. There are multiple projects underway trying to figure out how to separate, store and distribute the most abundant element in the universe safely and cheaply. Refueling a car will take a few minutes as it does with gasoline. It doesn't pollute and is endlessly renewable. It also conveniently burns! Can use it to fuel our cars and trucks. No reason to re-invent the combustion engine. That's already proven that works. Can heat our homes with it too. The best part, since it's all around us, no one will be beholden to any group or country to get it. Just need to crack the code of making it. Big project happening now on this at the university I work at. Hydrogen just has to be it.

This plus having the house of Saud and the Emirs to the east take a bloody nose and kick to the onions would be nice.

[Busher]

It's claimed that hybrid's average 40% better fuel economy that their gas only counterparts. (not my research- internet claim). So why the panic to go all electric when hybrids seem like a good start to saving gas and reducing carbon emissions?

[knorB]

It's claimed that hybrid's average 40% better fuel economy that their gas only counterparts. (not my research- internet claim). So why the panic to go all electric when hybrids seem like a good start to saving gas and reducing carbon emissions?

This is exactly correct.

[TryHard]

This is how every hybrid should sound



Another cool thing about hybrids is you don't need an alternator or a starter motor anymore. Take off on electric power and dump the clutch to get the engine running, and the Motor Generator unit inside the transmission also doubles as an alternator.

the 60 hp of hybrid assist roughly equates to a 20% fuel savings and thus less pit stops which can make a huge difference in a 24 hour race like Lemans.

[Maverick]

This popped up on yahoo of all places...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/new-study-says-electric-vehicles-are-not-as-environmentally-friendly-as-we-thought/ss-BB1p9qZY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=e80a680859404d23af4a961c2f9e021a&ei=25#image=1

[Shuffler]

No doubt true.  You folks manage to earn your image.

Understand that it might not be what you think it is.

- oldman

We are not trying to impress anyone, just protect our families. Yall can still handle your lot as you please. We don't force our ways on you.

[Shuffler]

This is exactly correct.

Electric vehicles have been around almost as long as vehicles. Diesel electric has been used for many decades successfully.

[icepac]

It’s like waiting for crypto mining to become obsolete so you can buy a couple of cheap, high end graphics cards.   

I’ll have a good selection of cheap hardware for some EV action soon enough.