Author Topic: Are these game freezes the result of someone changing codes in real time?  (Read 8777 times)

Offline Meatwad

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12792
I know for an absolute fact game freezes have happened for multiple players at the same time.

THIS WAS THE MOTIVATION FOR THE NAME OF THIS THREAD.

I cannot prove it. I lack the capability, intelligence, and resolve to figure this out.

The game developers lack of communication does not help the argument that the game is not compromised.

This is now a major issues with 4 freezes in a 30 minute time frame. I am not here to help fix this dam game. Dale has been making 100k-5000k a year on this game for 2 decades. If he is too busy now to fix the quality of life issues while still requiring $15 a month I say let it burn and let's all enjoy the time we have left.

A simple message of "hey, I have a problem. I do/dont have very many answers or a plan to move forward at this time" would have already gone a long way for this community. Alas, we are left to further fuel the flames of speculation.   :banana:

Many people forget this game is on autopilot now. When all the support people are let go, what  do you expect will (not) happen
See Rule 19- Do not place sausage on pizza.
I am No-Sausage-On-Pizza-Wad.
Das Funkillah - I kill hangers, therefore I am a funkiller. Coming to a vulchfest near you.
You cant tie a loop around 400000 lbs of locomotive using a 2 foot rope - Drediock on fat women

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12770
To be fair, 15 bucks isn't what it was 20 years ago, or even 4.
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18204
Has anyone even bothered to have called HT and ask or inform him about the issue?

Never understood this...

Are you now telling us that HT does not even bother to read the comments on the bbs for his game?

How about him responding to our questions here for his paying customers to see what he thinks of our concerns?

Eagler

"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17921
      • Fugi's Aces Help
Never understood this...

Are you now telling us that HT does not even bother to read the comments on the bbs for his game?

How about him responding to our questions here for his paying customers to see what he thinks of our concerns?

Eagler

When you want to ask your doctor a question do you post it on facebook or do you call the doctors office?

If your car is making a funny noise do you wait for the mechanic to show up, or do you call him/her to tell them about it?

Skuzzy was the lord of the BBS. He patrolled it and Im sure gave Hitech messages about issue players were having. These days who knows how busy Hitech is? By the way some of these political threads eventually get shut down I dont think he visits the BBS that often. If you are having a problem in the game it is much better to contact Hitech directly.

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18204
Your examples don't work here...

We all don't share the same doctor or body nor drive the same car..

I am a fan boy of this game..more than most but facts are facts..

Everyone here hangs on every letter in every word HT posts here when he does..

What's wrong with expecting more responses from him here?

Think he'd rather deal with numerous phone calls from us instead?

I don't..

Eagler
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline Animl-AW

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3193
      • Aces High Tech Hangar
HT views the bbs, just not every day.
90% of the stuff posted are not concerns.
As far as I know he still has young kids and their interest to tend to on summer vacation.

At least 100 times its been posted if he doesn’t respond call him.

I haven’t because I don’t want to inundate him with repeat phone calls. Evidently, no one has called, that I’m aware of.  Seems everyone is waiting for someone else to call. He doesn’t bite.

That said, just because he hasn’t responded doesn’t mean he’s not trying to figure it out. He's a man of few words, and I can't blame him. One sentence turns into 100 questions.

That said, if directx 9 fixes it then its probably vid driver issue. We have not established that to be true yet.

I didn’t get them until 2-3 weeks after the connection update. But I know I have updated nVidia drivers since.

Testing offline can give us an answer between vid and connection. I haven’t heard of anyone doing that either.

Last night I asked on 200 if anyone was getting freezes, only one person said yes. This doesn’t seem to be global.

It could be helpful that people having them post what vid card they have. IF we establish its vid driver, rolling back to prior update may fix it. The game has not been updated so it's not something that was implemented.

Several here are tech support types, we’re going through check list to narrow it down, almost same as you’d get for paid tech support. We really only need HT if it turns out to be connection issue.

When I made vids I was getting freezes in AHFV. I backed down the vid card from quality to performance fixed it.

If you’re getting freezes post what vid card and what OS you’re using. Help us help you. Talking 15$ doesn’t help.

:)

 

I only noticed one 1 sec freeze.


« Last Edit: July 22, 2024, 09:02:39 AM by Animl-AW »

Offline Animl-AW

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3193
      • Aces High Tech Hangar
Understanding the difference between DX9 and DX11.

Direct3D 11 supports an additional level of polymorphism on video memory resources known as views. Essentially, where you had a single Direct3D 9 object for a texture, you now have two objects: the texture resource, which holds the data, and the resource view, which indicates how the view is used for rendering.

The higher the DX mode, the harder your system is tasked due to the increased textures (higher resolution) of the game, and this can have a huge impact on frame rates. This is where system build/components comes into play. Example higher end video cards tends to handle DX11 games more easily then mid to low end video cards. Same with system - a higher end system will perform better than a low to mid level system.

With today's systems being much more advanced than their predecessors were when DX9 was released there is somewhat of a "leveling" effect going on here. In other words today's systems are much more powerful and capable of handling more advanced multimedia (including games), and therefore require a more advanced DirectX API (Application Programming Interface). This is the reason for DX11, and the move towards DX12.

Yes, DX11 can task a system, but if the system is relatively new and upper mid level, this shouldn't be a problem. The problem comes in when trying to game with mid to low level systems/video cards. This is where you take a performance hit via frame rates. In this instance your can lower your DX mode, but at the cost of image quality.

If it's running smoother in DX9 that means your system is not able to handle the graphics of the other modes. Your CPU and GPU are considered low end so just stick with Dx9.

IF you have a newish system and your freezes go way using DX9, it could be because you're no longer using advancements in DX11 that COULD be causing it. IF we establish using DX9 fixes it, it's a good chance it's a new vid driver.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2024, 08:52:02 AM by Animl-AW »

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17921
      • Fugi's Aces Help
Your examples don't work here...

We all don't share the same doctor or body nor drive the same car..

I am a fan boy of this game..more than most but facts are facts..

Everyone here hangs on every letter in every word HT posts here when he does..

What's wrong with expecting more responses from him here?

Think he'd rather deal with numerous phone calls from us instead?

I don't..

Eagler

I know my doctor has a lot more patients than me.... try getting a quick appointment.. Im sure none of his patients are posting on message boards looking for an answer from him.

I drive a Mustang, Im sure there are still a few hundred thousand of those on the road.

To Hitech, Im betting the BBS is nothing more than a chat room and a huge waste of time to monitor it.

The point is, if you want action, direct message him, email him, or call him. If you post here looking for answers all your going to get is is comments from the rest of the peanut gallery. Some things can be answered here, more to game play. Game mechanics we are only guessing as none of us have worked with Hitechs code, but have experience with other code writing.

Offline Animl-AW

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3193
      • Aces High Tech Hangar
I'm updating my tweak page soon, but I'll post this here too. If it's a connection issue this may contain a work-around setting that helps.

I've used SpeedGuide.net and many tools for decades now. It has proven it's worth. Be sure to explore the Broadband menu.

SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer
https://www.speedguide.net/analyzer.php

SpeedGuide.net TCP Optimizer
https://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php

It is completely free, works with most Windows versions from XP to Windows 11, requires no installation, and has been downloaded over 10 Million times over the years.
This will save the agony of manually making registry settings, and a good tool for custom tweaking.

* SpeedGuide.net TCP connection gaming tweaks.
https://www.speedguide.net/faq/35-what-are-the-best-tcp-optimizer-settings-for-474

While the SG TCP Optimizer is designed to give you the best possible throughput online, it can also help improve your gaming experience. There are, however a few subtle differences when optimizing for throughput/file transfer vs. gaming/reduced latency.

To tweak your system for the best possible gaming performance, please follow these steps:

1. Apply the Optimal Settings
In the TCP Optimizer, set your advertised internet speed, choose the "optimal" settings, and "Apply" them (you can postpone the reboot for now).

2. Set Network Throttling Index and System Responsiveness
In the "Advanced" tab of the Optimizer, set the "Gaming Tweak - Network Throttling Index":
NetworkThrottlingIndex: disabled:ffffffff
SystemResponsiveness: gaming: 0

3. Disable Naggling
In the "Advanced" tab, set the "Gaming Tweak - Disable Nagle's Algorithm":
TcpAckFrequency: 1
TcpNoDelay: 1
TcpDelAckTicks: 0

4. Apply the Optimizer settings and reboot when prompted.

5. More Tweaks
After applying the settings and rebooting, also see the Gaming Tweaks article for additional settings to your PC and NAT router not covered by the progra

* SpeedGuide.net Speed Test
https://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/

* SpeedGuide.net Wireless Network Speed Tweaks
https://www.speedguide.net/articles/wireless-network-speed-tweaks-5681

* SpeedGuide.net Network Adapter Optimization
Network Adapter Optimization
https://www.speedguide.net/articles/network-adapter-optimization-3449
« Last Edit: July 22, 2024, 11:33:22 AM by Animl-AW »

Offline hitech

  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 12398
      • http://www.hitechcreations.com
This is not a new issue. It has been around since we supported DX11. I have looked for it in the past but never found a way to duplicate it. My guess is nvidia updated a driver that reintroduced the issue. Also just because is shows in network stats does not mean it is network related.  The pause in the game simply causes the read of the packet to be delayed.

HiTech

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18204
Thanks for the response HT!

<S> Fugitive

Eagler
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline Animl-AW

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3193
      • Aces High Tech Hangar
This is not a new issue. It has been around since we supported DX11. I have looked for it in the past but never found a way to duplicate it. My guess is nvidia updated a driver that reintroduced the issue. Also just because is shows in network stats does not mean it is network related.  The pause in the game simply causes the read of the packet to be delayed.

HiTech

Kudos

Offline ZE

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 204
Thanks for the response HT!
Eagler

I will do the same... <S> all

Offline RotBaron

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3543

As for recalibrating sticks, that sounds like those players are losing USB power. In the search bar in the lower left of your screen type "device manager" and click to open the device manager in the right window pane. Then scroll to the bottom and click the arrow next to "Universal Serial Bus Controllers".  Right click each one that has HUB in it and select properties then power management. Make sure the "Allow computer to turn off" box is unchecked. Click OK to close the window.

My stik is not connected to a hub, it’s using a system board USB port.

I don’t know what could have changed that about 6-8 months ago I started having to recalibrate every login. I did upgrade from Win 7 to 10.

It’s not that there’s no calibration, it’s just so poorly calibrated that it would crash the plane with much maneuver.
They're casting their bait over there, see?

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17921
      • Fugi's Aces Help
My stik is not connected to a hub, it’s using a system board USB port.

I don’t know what could have changed that about 6-8 months ago I started having to recalibrate every login. I did upgrade from Win 7 to 10.

It’s not that there’s no calibration, it’s just so poorly calibrated that it would crash the plane with much maneuver.

Your computer has internal hubs, so you should still check them. Anytime windows does an update that is one of the settings I check as it does get changed.