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Offline Yarbles

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #315 on: November 25, 2024, 08:24:47 PM »


In 2023 I got the clubbing by the same group for TRYING to get numbers up,... how it will never work, every pessimistic thought that could be thrown out there. Not a player here in that time will say different.

When I came back it was the exact same numbers as right now. Prime-time 100-112 players. Some crappy videos and help from other players getting the word out we're still here, brought that number up to 160 2 mos before MotA.....and during MotA it hit 180-200. All at the same time that group was repeating the same thing over and over,...even while we proved them wrong, and the game they promoted could not even support their expensive AC.  DESPITE 127 page thread on pretty planes. I don't need to repeat it, we all watched it and remember it, it didn't go under the rug. We met goals of 200.(s)

What broke our momentum was
1) Allowing YKW to remain way too long, making bbs and 200 completely intolerable to everyone.
2) Too much political CRAP. You split your audience when you have politics.

Otherwise I would have shot for 250, but would not lift a finger as long as idiot(s) were destroying it.

BTW, most of those new numbers were return players.

so none of the last couple replies are true.
<shrug>

Currently, compared to when I returned, ch.200 and bbs has quieted down, that was a goal.

I'm not going back into it. But I sense a few may want a repeat battle.

So above all it can be done and I am sure we would all support that  :salute

I personally think I have got at least a couple of people interested/more interested again and have a couple more in my sights  :uhoh :D

AH is a war game but also a community.  If we each of us B.S. bribe, seduce or Bully one or 2 payers back into the game, yippee  :banana:

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #316 on: November 25, 2024, 09:22:30 PM »
House Keeping.  We need to start with house keeping.  We need to make the game fun for those that have been here.  The constant double teaming during prime time is killing the game worse than any one thing any one has mentioned. Folks that have only a few hours every few days to play doesn’t want to either fly around shooting at ground guns in a 25 eny plane during prime time hours. As well most people will not log on to up against the horde for their few hours of entertainment to get their skull bashed in by the circling vultures that normally run at the sight of a co alt plane.
Which brings me to the other thing. The piss poor fights when planes are coalt. The arenas first move from 2k out is to go nose on and ram ho on every merge (if they merge). Then you have the runners that will literally run 2 sectors to avoid a 1v1.
The amount of folks that literally close the game for bad game play would put 200 additional people back in the arena if game play was decent.
Last week I logged on three nights in a row and just watched the map, about thirty minutes each. I also changed countries to see from the other sides. Normally there was a group of planes circling an air field daring some one to up while on the other side the only planes in the air was 2 guys resupplying the ack. How is that fun for anyone?   The morning horde is atrocious as well. When I’m on most guys won’t even fight them. And then of course the other country get in on the rolling of fields.
We could do better and with a little time we could get some people ack in the game.

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #317 on: November 26, 2024, 01:39:23 AM »
The problem is the current generation of gamers don’t want a challenge.

Challenge?

Cartoon planes in a game?

The main reason for people not wanting to fly cartoon planes is because silly old men write 16 paragraph replies in a forum and shouting at people in game.

Challenge? Icepac is a bit daft if you ask me.

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #318 on: November 26, 2024, 01:41:11 AM »
House Keeping.  We need to start with house keeping.  We need to make the game fun for those that have been here.  The constant double teaming during prime time is killing the game worse than any one thing any one has mentioned. Folks that have only a few hours every few days to play doesn’t want to either fly around shooting at ground guns in a 25 eny plane during prime time hours. As well most people will not log on to up against the horde for their few hours of entertainment to get their skull bashed in by the circling vultures that normally run at the sight of a co alt plane.
Which brings me to the other thing. The piss poor fights when planes are coalt. The arenas first move from 2k out is to go nose on and ram ho on every merge (if they merge). Then you have the runners that will literally run 2 sectors to avoid a 1v1.
The amount of folks that literally close the game for bad game play would put 200 additional people back in the arena if game play was decent.
Last week I logged on three nights in a row and just watched the map, about thirty minutes each. I also changed countries to see from the other sides. Normally there was a group of planes circling an air field daring some one to up while on the other side the only planes in the air was 2 guys resupplying the ack. How is that fun for anyone?   The morning horde is atrocious as well. When I’m on most guys won’t even fight them. And then of course the other country get in on the rolling of fields.
We could do better and with a little time we could get some people ack in the game.

This is all true but always was in my opinion.

Changing the way people play is as easy as herding cats imo.

However, yes it's frustrating so I spoke to people I know who I believe do know.  They say.

1) Don't merge in way you can be hoed.

2) If your chasing someone over 2 sectors I guess you are in a turnier plane and they are in a fast one or you would have caught them.

3) Practice SA if you don't want to be ganged.

4) Trying to take bases creates action when there isn't any especially when you work with others.

5) Suck it up  :D then try and get better  :aok

Same now as ever. Some people getting loads of kills and others crying about it and saying the killers aren't playing nicely but coming back for more. That's my experience as a returning player except everyone is a bit more polite and mellow than they used to be.

My K/D is 0.4 since I am back it used to be nearer to 4 . The thing that has changed most for me is how many people have learned to fly the P51 and P47 in a way that they will and very often do take on a turnier plane right down to the deck. The overall standard is allot higher  :salute :salute :salute :salute :salute
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #319 on: November 26, 2024, 01:46:16 AM »
Challenge?

 "if you ask me".



Did anyone ask you  :D
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #320 on: November 26, 2024, 01:48:04 AM »

The main reason for people not wanting to fly cartoon planes is because silly old men write 16 paragraph replies in a forum and shouting at people in game.



I find people have mellowed in here and in game. Its a friendlier place now  :aok

I saw Micky D the other day. He has moved to the USA and become a class traitor !! He no longer eats bread and dripping and does not even wear wooden shoes anymore. La dee da  :D
 
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #321 on: November 26, 2024, 06:41:43 AM »
Is there a Mandela effect happening where a cross section of people have forgotten that HiTech put somewhere on the main webpage AH3 development had ceased. :headscratch:
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #322 on: November 26, 2024, 07:08:52 AM »
Not enough players for 3 sides imo

Need to make it two sided which requires coding so won't happen

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #323 on: November 26, 2024, 07:41:42 AM »
Not enough players for 3 sides imo

Need to make it two sided which requires coding so won't happen

Enjoy it while it lasts

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Ehh, I think if all maps were made to the size of NorthCo going forward, would help. I'd say max about 15 bases on each side, where all sides could reach each other for a battle, don't need TT or FT for that, but the fronts are just too big with no bottlenecks. 2 sides would just make the fronts even bigger really.

But, we have gone from a time when ACM and turn fighting was the the "thing", to flying high and fast in muh easy mode cannon monster is the new "thing". So now that most want to fly around high and fast and pretend they are good, they are bascislly making it so boring that folks just log off and go find quicker action elsewhere.
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #324 on: November 26, 2024, 07:47:38 AM »
Smaller maps either way ..2 or 3 sided ... would help for sure

As even experimentation with the maps list seems to be a huge ask...just glad to see a dar change and the great pumpkin lol

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #325 on: November 26, 2024, 08:05:18 AM »
While some may go overboard wiyh positive ideas, you seem to go extreme on negative.

But I do note that these types flock together here.

What I don’t get is why people who don’t like are here, besides just popping balloons. <shrug>

You just don't seem to get it. If you update the game current players or lurkers will be like "Oh hey, that looks cool. Maybe ill try the new update". If you make a completely new game called "Aces High 4" or whatever new name people outside the circles will be like "Oh wow, its a new game. I've gotta try it".

I don't garuntee players will stay longer then a couple weeks but at least it would of gotten new players. To be brutally honest, currently, there are more people actually physically dying around here then being replaced by new players.

Negative? If anything your always negative trying to poo poo ideas which arn't yours. You really have an inflated sense of yourself.

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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #326 on: November 26, 2024, 08:19:37 AM »

Negative? If anything your always negative trying to poo poo ideas which arn't yours. You really have an inflated sense of yourself.

Nonsense

If anything I “poo poo” defeatist and advice from those who haven’t played in a long time, who are defeatist., whose words were proven wrong and tend to be know-it-alls of a game they no longer play due to a prettier, more pc demanding game that can’t even support their pricy AC.

During same time span msny went to pretty planes and came right back. Their numbers are no longer rising. In fact they have dipped. So what is their problem?

Seems a few are here to poo poo hopes and ideas. Like right now.
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #327 on: November 26, 2024, 08:35:33 AM »
Is there a Mandela effect happening where a cross section of people have forgotten that HiTech put somewhere on the main webpage AH3 development had ceased. :headscratch:

Wait, there's a webpage?
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #328 on: November 26, 2024, 09:13:48 AM »
An industrial strength enema.  :bolt:
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Re: What would get AH growing again
« Reply #329 on: November 26, 2024, 09:37:11 AM »
If I have only one point, it would be no one is dying trying. It should not be a concern.
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