Declaration of war on drug lords..

[Animl-AW]

I’m not sure why political ideologies were entered into this discussion that absolutely matters none whatsoever.

The rule of law is paramount…

NO

MATTER

WHAT

You mean because the subject is a political decision? it can't not go that way.

they all frothing at the mouth, losing their minds to reality.

1939

[knorB]

And I suspect that each time people recoiled at the arrogance it took to mess with a house occupied by a temporary.

See if you, can spot the difference in the TONE of the reporting compared to current reporting.

[Eagler]

You forgot Obama ... wait, he just got rid of things.

He actually converted tennis courts ti basketball courts..

You can't make this up...

Eagler

[Eagler]

No I'm not, you're all are vastly misinformed,.. OR,.. don't care how wrong you are as long as you make someone mad.

What you think I am is the last thing important to me.

Make someone mad... 

If this actually angers you, you're in deeper than you know..relax..this too shall pass...

Eagler

[Animl-AW]

No longer worth talking to your type on ANY such matter. You have no clue what you’re talking about and denial swings you by the tail it ya do.

Just an irritant that isolates itself with recycled willful ignorance that loops forever.

Insane is thinking one can make sense to the insane. Good judgement cannot be trusted.

Have fun with high prices on everything while he drapes himself in gold bought with your money. Brilliance. Don’t touch me.

Play on banjos
Serve more dogs cats and babies and praise the pedos! Right on.

Nope, no longer reading, welcome to ignore. No one should expose themselves to such tripe.

Now you $45k pickup cost $60-80k

[knorB]

engrish?

[AKKuya]

I have worked with many immigrants from Mexico and other Latin countries for many years.  I have had many discussions with them, especially concerning the drug cartels.

Many have talked about "The Tunnel". 

This falls into a rumor.  No evidence to back it up.  Just hearsay.

The Sinaloa cartel had built a true tunnel from Mexico to the U.S.  They played the long game.  They started over 50 miles deep in Mexico.  In a town with warehouses, they dug 500 feet down.  They tunneled to a spot over 100 miles inside the U.S., to another town with warehouses.

This seems preposterous.  The cartel has the money to pay for this.  Engineers, surveyors, geologists, and slave labor.

"El Chapo" Guzman is crazy enough to do this.  I've watched many docs and interviews with him to believe a possibility of a tunnel like this true.

If they built this behemoth with twin rail tracks allowing goods to travel back and forth, then drugs will always get into the U.S.

On the other hand, it might be misinformation from the cartel to make the U.S. go crazy looking for a phantom tunnel.

[AKIron]

Portland tried decriminalizing drugs. It didn't last long. We won't stop use but we could isolate it.

[DmonSlyr]

Portland tried decriminalizing drugs. It didn't last long. We won't stop use but we could isolate it.

The only way to end rampant serious drug use is to stop the supply. Heroin and Meth are too addictive to allow 18 year olds to do. A couple hits and their life has turned into that of a third world homeless loser. Ive seen it happen a lot. Just too powerful and too hard to break that addiction.

The left are pure ignoramus and shouldn't be taken seriously as a party anymore. They will destroy this country just like all the trash dump cities they've created over the last 40 years. They would defend a gang members before they defend your American families children.

[RUSH1]

I have worked with many immigrants from Mexico and other Latin countries for many years.  I have had many discussions with them, especially concerning the drug cartels.

Many have talked about "The Tunnel". 

This falls into a rumor.  No evidence to back it up.  Just hearsay.

The Sinaloa cartel had built a true tunnel from Mexico to the U.S.  They played the long game.  They started over 50 miles deep in Mexico.  In a town with warehouses, they dug 500 feet down.  They tunneled to a spot over 100 miles inside the U.S., to another town with warehouses.

This seems preposterous.  The cartel has the money to pay for this.  Engineers, surveyors, geologists, and slave labor.

"El Chapo" Guzman is crazy enough to do this.  I've watched many docs and interviews with him to believe a possibility of a tunnel like this true.

If they built this behemoth with twin rail tracks allowing goods to travel back and forth, then drugs will always get into the U.S.

On the other hand, it might be misinformation from the cartel to make the U.S. go crazy looking for a phantom tunnel.

I don't believe they would be able to pull off an engineering project of that magnitude without our intelligence department finding out.       

[CptTrips]

Portland tried decriminalizing drugs. It didn't last long. We won't stop use but we could isolate it.

The worst physically addictive drugs in America are tobacco, alcohol and table sugar.

In 2022 numbers fentanyl killed  73,654 in the US.
Combined alcohol + tobacco + sugar-linked deaths: ~683,000 per year.

Here’s a rough comparison of deaths in the U.S. from key causes:

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**Fentanyl (synthetic-opioid overdoses)**

* In 2022, about **73,654** people died from a fentanyl-involved overdose. ([USAFacts][1])
* In 2023, more than **107,000** drug overdose deaths occurred, with “nearly 70%” attributed to opioids such as fentanyl. ([DEA][2])

  * If ~70% of ~107,000 = ~74,900 deaths associated with opioids/fentanyl.
* So we can estimate fentanyl deaths on the order of ~70,000–75,000 per year in recent years in the U.S.

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**Combined: Alcohol, Tobacco, Excess Sugar Consumption**

* Alcohol (excessive use): ~**178,000** deaths per year (2020-21 period, U.S.). ([CDC][3])
* Tobacco: ~**480,000+** deaths per year in the U.S. (including secondhand smoke) according to advocacy data. ([Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids][4])
* Excess sugar (or sugar-sweetened beverages / added sugar) – data are less precise for fully attributable deaths in the U.S., but some estimates suggest ~**25,000** U.S. deaths annually are linked to sugary-drink consumption. ([CMADocs][5])

  * More broadly, some global estimates link sugar-sweetened beverages to ~340,000 deaths worldwide. ([Prevention][6])
  * So the U.S. number is much smaller and the figure is uncertain.

**Adding them up** (using best-available numbers, with caution):

* Alcohol: ~178,000
* Tobacco: ~480,000
* Sugar-linked: ~25,000 (approx)
* **Combined total**: ~ **683,000** deaths per year (very rough estimate)

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**Comparison**

* Fentanyl-related overdose deaths: ~70,000–75,000 per year.
* Combined alcohol + tobacco + sugar-linked deaths: ~683,000 per year.
* So the combined deaths from those three (alcohol, tobacco, sugar) are roughly **9 to 10 times** higher than the deaths from fentanyl overdose in the U.S., based on these rough figures.

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**Caveats & important notes**

* The sugar-linked death estimate is much less certain and may under- or over-estimate the true number.
* “Sugar consumption” is a broad category and many deaths (e.g., from heart disease, diabetes) have multiple contributing risk factors; attribution is complex.
* Tobacco and alcohol death figures are reasonably well established; fentanyl/overdose numbers are also but can vary by methodology and year.
* These are annual numbers and reflect different types of risk (acute overdose vs chronic disease).
* The comparison is meant for illustrative scale; it does *not* suggest equivalence in nature of the risks.

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If you like, I can look up the *most recent year* data (2023 or 2024) for all of these (fentanyl, alcohol, tobacco, sugar-linked) and provide a more up-to-date comparison. Would you like that?

[1]: https://usafacts.org/articles/are-fentanyl-overdose-deaths-rising-in-the-us/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Are fentanyl overdose deaths rising in the US? - USAFacts"
[2]: https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/12/16/overdose-deaths-decline-fentanyl-threat-looms?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Overdose Deaths Decline, Fentanyl Threat Looms - DEA.gov"
[3]: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7308a1.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Deaths from Excessive Alcohol Use — United States, 2016–2021"
[4]: https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/problem/toll-us?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The Toll of Tobacco in the United States"
[5]: https://www.cmadocs.org/newsroom/news/view/ArticleId/26411/Sugar-sweetened-drinks-responsible-for-25-000-U-S-deaths-each-year?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Sugar-sweetened drinks responsible for 25000 U.S. deaths ..."
[6]: https://www.prevention.com/health/a63375234/sugary-drinks-linked-to-death/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Study: Sugary Drinks Linked to Over 330000 Deaths a Year"

I think we need a War on the Standard American Diet. 

[icepac]

A 28 foot dark grey “open fisherman” with six 300hp outboards, a giant fuel tank, and loaded up with “packages” is a raging clue what they are up to.   

It’s a very specific look.

[AKIron]

The worst physically addictive drugs in America are tobacco, alcohol and table sugar.

In 2022 numbers fentanyl killed  73,654 in the US.
Combined alcohol + tobacco + sugar-linked deaths: ~683,000 per year.




I think we need a War on the Standard American Diet.

Many agree with you including RFK Jr. A not insignificant difference though is that many make use of alcohol, tobacco, and sugar in moderation and are not a never ending burden on society. I'll agree though that increasingly many are. 

[CptTrips]

I have worked with many immigrants from Mexico and other Latin countries for many years.  I have had many discussions with them, especially concerning the drug cartels.

Many have talked about "The Tunnel". 

A 150 mile long tunnel would be an incredible achievement.
The longest known tunnel currently is 35 miles and considered a technological marvel.
https://chatgpt.com/share/68fa3659-a8cc-8001-adb8-01be645f1319

If true,  Elon should hire them as contractors for the Boring Company.

[CptTrips]

Many agree with you including RFK Jr. A not insignificant difference though is that many make use of alcohol, tobacco, and sugar in moderation and are not a never ending burden on society. I'll agree though that increasingly many are.

So use in moderation of all substances should be legal for adults?

Or should all toxic substances be made illegal in a logical and consistent manner for our own good?