Revisiting an old topic

[LilMak]

Do you deny the meeting with the C - I - A or are you just a clown too?

So would anyone like to scientifically tell me why Orlando doesnt have streaks across the sky, but Valdosta, GA, which is less than 200 miles, has streaks across the sky on the same day? This is only a few of them as I couldn't take a pic fast enough on the Snapchat.

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I explained it simply earlier in this thread but it clearly didn’t sink in. The scientific explanation is you have a fundamental misunderstanding of weather and air masses. Let me help you visualize it in the simplest terms I can lay out…

Buy a lava lamp. Plug it in. Watch the bubbles. Imagine tiny planes the size of fleas flying through it in straight lines from different directions. Sometimes they’re in the bubbles. Sometimes they aren’t. Some bubbles are big and some are small. They’re always moving.

Now imagine the entire sky around the entire planet (provided you don’t need evidence it’s round) is that lava lamp but you can’t actually see the bubbles because the bubbles aren’t different colors. They’re different temperatures. They move horizontally and vertically. Sometimes at the same time. And since your eyes can’t see variations in temperature, pressure, as well humidity, you don’t know where the bubbles are. Also air doesn’t pay any attention to state lines or altitude restrictions. Sometimes your local weather person will describe these bubbles as “highs”, “lows”, “troughs”, “inversions”, and even “bubbles”.

These bubbles (scientifically) will have an effect on how long, how high, and how visible contrails are. It’s dynamic the same way it can be raining at your house and clear at work. In conclusion, you can read the science if you like. But I’m not going to re-write meteorology books for you on a message board because you just want confirmation bias that planes are evil denizens of the deep state put in the sky solely to make you a drooling zombie.

Now. Is it possible or even likely that the occasional aircraft is doing something extra? Perhaps. But 99.999 percent of the contrails you or anyone else sees is exactly what it is. Condensation trails or contrails for short. The explanation is in the name.

[TyFoo]

I only deny the veracity of any of the self proclaimed facts you regurgitate.

I for one am glad that these Government shenanigans are being brought to light. Just look at the facts. You GO!

When "one" disgruntled Enlisted Airforce Airmen who obviously spent her high school career studying "chemicals" speaks out, we should be alarmed. Cuz everybody that Enlist in the Military is always happy. Also, pay no mind that she wasnt an Engineer at the time, but worked in a Department of Engineering as a Technician, a self admitted OSHA "like" inspector or in other words a Safety person in the Military. Come on, get on board.

Why give credit to the people in here that have spent a lifetime working & wrenching on aircraft? Let alone consider the experience of those that spent tens of 1000's of hours operating at high altitude. What could they possibly know when compared to a knowledgable keen observer sitting on the ground?

West coast states obviously have a dry atmosphere pffft, Florida more wet. Got it.
There is no way a small body of water located to the left of the West Coast of the United States called the "Pacific Ocean" could be the source of another fake phenomenon called evaporation allowing water vapor to rise 1000s of feet into the air to form clouds even when its only 51 degrees outside. What kind of hooey are they trying plant in our heads?

Humidity in the Atmosphere Fact or Fiction. Exposed by an "A" student in "Weather & Climate" with the hardest teacher.
The Ace in the hole, the smoking gun. The one credential that trumps everybody else's education and experience with regard to humidity. We now see the error of our ways and I am sure we all regret missing that class.
Thank you for your service.

[DmonSlyr]

I explained it simply earlier in this thread but it clearly didn’t sink in. The scientific explanation is you have a fundamental misunderstanding of weather and air masses. Let me help you visualize it in the simplest terms I can lay out…

Buy a lava lamp. Plug it in. Watch the bubbles. Imagine tiny planes the size of fleas flying through it in straight lines from different directions. Sometimes they’re in the bubbles. Sometimes they aren’t. Some bubbles are big and some are small. They’re always moving.

Now imagine the entire sky around the entire planet (provided you don’t need evidence it’s round) is that lava lamp but you can’t actually see the bubbles because the bubbles aren’t different colors. They’re different temperatures. They move horizontally and vertically. Sometimes at the same time. And since your eyes can’t see variations in temperature, pressure, as well humidity, you don’t know where the bubbles are. Also air doesn’t pay any attention to state lines or altitude restrictions. Sometimes your local weather person will describe these bubbles as “highs”, “lows”, “troughs”, “inversions”, and even “bubbles”.

These bubbles (scientifically) will have an effect on how long, how high, and how visible contrails are. It’s dynamic the same way it can be raining at your house and clear at work. In conclusion, you can read the science if you like. But I’m not going to re-write meteorology books for you on a message board because you just want confirmation bias that planes are evil denizens of the deep state put in the sky solely to make you a drooling zombie.

Now. Is it possible or even likely that the occasional aircraft is doing something extra? Perhaps. But 99.999 percent of the contrails you or anyone else sees is exactly what it is. Condensation trails or contrails for short. The explanation is in the name.

I dont agree with your analysis. Your misconception is that contrails are the same as clouds and that is simply not true. Humidity has no effect at that alt. We see these trails in the driest cities too. There is literally extremely low air density at that alt, and there are no air molecules that have water vapor in them at that alt. Hence why you fly above the clouds in a plane.

No one has answered my question about that picture of Portland. No one wants to acknowledge the Davos confessions.

Again, this is what a real contrail looks like. Notice how its not expanding in the sky?

This may actually be Airforce 1 too that I just took today.

[Busher]

Your misconception is that contrails are the same as clouds and that is simply not true. Humidity has no effect at that alt.

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You continue to make definite statements that are categorically wrong.
So the new debate should be:
1: You're just being argumentative for it's own sake.
2: You live on a different planet from the rest of us.
3: You refuse to read any of the real texts and publications on aviation meteorology.
4: Or, you are simply stupid.

[Meatwad]

So would anyone like to scientifically tell me why Orlando doesnt have streaks across the sky, but Valdosta, GA, which is less than 200 miles, has streaks across the sky on the same day? This is only a few of them as I couldn't take a pic fast enough on the Snapchat.

Because you have absolutely no freaking idea how the weather and clouds work at high altitudes

[DmonSlyr]

Are you calling the Davos "leaders" liars?

[Meatwad]

B-17's leaving condensation trails. NOT chemtrails

[DmonSlyr]

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B-17's leaving condensation trails. NOT chemtrails

Those contrails in that picture are A. A different type of engine not using cleaner jet fuel, and B. Those contrails are no longer than the contrails in my picture above, you cant see how long they are but you can see them disappearing towards the back. They only seem long because the picture is taken out front from another plane.

[Busher]

Those contrails in that picture are A. A different type of engine not using cleaner jet fuel, and B. Those contrails are no longer than the contrails in my picture above, you cant see how long they are but you can see them disappearing towards the back. They only seem long because the picture is taken out front from another plane.

Sounds a lot like a p*ssing contest doesn't it? My contrail is longer that yours.
But he must be a great lover because there is truly no end to this PR**K.

[guncrasher]

can somebody explain to me why violator lives in a place that has contrails if they are dangerous?


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[icepac]

Time to post this again. 

[LilMak]

I dont agree with your analysis.

The cool thing about science is it doesn’t care whether you agree and remains true whether you believe it or not.

Let me try one last time…

First off, clouds (visible moisture) can get to 60,000+ feet and cirrostratus clouds regularly form 20-40k and can sometimes look similar to contrails. Your assertion is flat out WRONG about moisture in the flight levels. Guess why I said “flight levels”? Anything 18K and above is considered the “flight levels” in aviation and it has to do with air pressure and the speed aircraft are cruising. I could get further into that but I digress. Most commercial jets cruise in the 30-40k range. Where do cirrostratus clouds (visible moisture) live again?

You keep posting random pictures as proof of your hypothesis. It’s incomplete and lazy. It’s no different than if I posted different pictures of wood campfires burning. Sometimes they have a lot of smoke. Sometimes there is very little smoke. Sometimes the smoke goes straight up. Sometimes it goes diagonal. Sometimes smoke kinda floats around and lingers. But it is all results of the same type of combustion and behave differently for the exact same reason contrails behave the way they do.

The absolute travesty here is, even if every single plane loaded up with chemtrail mind control juice on every flight (which they don’t), nothing would change. Sometimes trails would linger and sometimes they wouldn’t.

Because…weather.

[AKIron]

It'd be much easier to just put something in the water reservoirs. If you really want mind control just infiltrate the schools.

[DmonSlyr]

They were spraying today in Orlando. Clearly easy to see. Im sure it was just the weather when its exactly how it was yesterday only slightly hotter..

Notice this today, one has a stream for 50 miles. The other doesnt.



Layers ans layers of streams all evenly spread out. They must be getting ready for 40 degree drop tomorrow..



Its pretty funny how you guys say science "doesnt depend on your opinion to be true" but then tell your opinion on science.

You know what else doesnt need your opinion to be true?

Members of Davos telling you to your face they are doing it. C, I , A lectures that are leaked tell you they are doing it. Well maybe that wasn't supposed to get out, but it did. Oh and dont forget all the documentaries that are out there with other military whistleblowers and high level officials questioning this. I guess yall just love living in your own arrogance.

[Animl-AW]

This is ultra paranoia, at best.
<shrug>

Flying monkeys are next

<runs>