Revisiting an old topic

[Banshee7]

Good morning, everyone! I hope those in the path of this winter storm stretching across the southeast are faring well.  Yesterday, we got about 6" of snow at my house, and today it is sleeting its behind off.  There was a sharp transition zone between snow, sleet, and freezing rain.  Praying we keep power and the pipes don't freeze!

As with many threads here, I know some of you will try to make this topic political.  However, can we please keep the conversation both scientific AND civil?

In the onset of this winter storm, I saw more and more posts on Facebook and Instagram about cloud seeding and bioengineered weather.  As many of you are plane enthusiasts like myself, I am interested to see where we stand on this topic now. I searched and read a few comments on an older thread, but I wanted an update.

I understand that cloud seeding and bioengineered weather is a real thing, but I don't believe it to be on the scale that so many conspiracy theorists claim.  I had to listen to one of my friends explain to me that the vapor trails behind planes are not supposed to linger, and those that do linger are in fact chemtrails.  Mind you, this guy's wife is a professor of science at a local university...I don't know what her stance on this is.  Same guy made a post about the amount of vapor trails he saw the morning before the storm hit.  I kindly posted a colorized photo of vapor trails behind bombers in WW2 just to troll him even more (he completely took the bait).  There are so many people that commented saying they've never seen this many planes in the sky.  I tried explaining that we literally live less than 100 miles from the LARGEST Fed Ex hub in the country that sees more than 400 flights per day (not counting commercial flights that use the same airport).

I have completed screwed up my algorithm on social media by researching cloud seeding and bioengineered weather just to see what's out there.  So, here I am, rambling on a bulletin board about it.  What say you?

[Eagler]

If when we can alter the weather odds have it we will screw it up big time...

Has it already begun, who knows but if we can seed clouds to make rain why does Cali have such drought issues..

Eagler

[AKKuya]

Rain?  Snow?  Sleet?  Ice?

Position hundreds of orbital reflecting panels directing solar light into the vast oceans.  Surface water evaporates into the rising atmosphere mix.  Condensation forms clouds and eventual saturation point kicks out the moisture.

Wildcard.  Wind.

Just depends on where the orbital panels are aimed at.

[Bolt]

I've been looking into it as well, after noticing the trails being sprayed over the house and maybe 2-3 days later we have cold and/or rain. Very odd. Weather all over the world is weird as though man tampered with mother nature and now is reaping the consequences. Also, they've been experimenting with this since before WW2. There are videos of planes creating a literal fog of war to hide ships on the ocean.

Frequency and Vibrations used to manipulate matter is not fiction...otherwise mantras would not exist.

Looked into HAARP as well, with all kinds of wild speculation about Antarctica.

End of the day, the Lord is the cause of all causes. Keep the faith strong, He never does anything that is not for our benefit for He loves us. We pray to soften the effects of the consequences we've inflicted upon ourselves, if not to nullify them totally.

[Animl-AW]

If when we can alter the weather odds have it we will screw it up big time...

Has it already begun, who knows but if we can seed clouds to make rain why does Cali have such drought issues..

Eagler

Well, you have to understand seeding.
Basically its particles dropped into moist air. Mist collects on these particles until they are a drop heavy enough to fall.

If the moisture isn’t there it won’t happen.

Florida would be an excellent place to seed as there is always enough moisture. The west is a whole different climate.

What India discovered was having a LOT of open air reservoirs they evaporate and creat their own weather system. Thats how they saved their farmlands

Also the cold down south is understanding the ice cap dome. Warmer jet stream air moved up and over this dome. Climate change has eaten this dome and now the jet streams flows right through it pushing the cold air down here. This is why the ice caps are melting

Wasn’t that fun?
I may watch too many documentaries

[Lazerr]

I watched something about those con trails containing fine particles of aluminum to reflect sunlight and slow warming.  IIRC this dates back to the 70's.

Was an interview of someone by Tucker Carlson.

[Animl-AW]

I watched something about those con trails containing fine particles of aluminum to reflect sunlight and slow warming.  IIRC this dates back to the 70's.

Was an interview of someone by Tucker Carlson.

a half truth

The true part is aluminum partials were released from planes,......during WWII to blind radar.
reflecting sunlight to slow warming National Enquirer worthy. Tucker Carlson is about as reliable as a wet book of matches

[Lazerr]

a half truth

The true part is aluminum partials were released from planes,......during WWII to blind radar.
reflecting sunlight to slow warming National Enquirer worthy. Tucker Carlson is about as reliable as a wet book of matches

Quite a bit of interesting things found in west coast rain samples also brought up in that video..

[Busher]

I watched something about those con trails containing fine particles of aluminum to reflect sunlight and slow warming.  IIRC this dates back to the 70's.

Was an interview of someone by Tucker Carlson.

I logged 30,000+ hours of flying time in my career. I can't even begin to guess how many thousands of miles of contrails I have left behind me.
In spite of the popularity of media born conspiracy theories, I can assure you contrails (condensation trails) are nothing more than the water created in the burning of a hydrocarbon. Newsflash, the family car makes water when the engine is running too.

[Lazerr]

I logged 30,000+ hours of flying time in my career. I can't even begin to guess how many thousands of miles of contrails I have left behind me.
In spite of the popularity of media born conspiracy theories, I can assure you contrails (condensation trails) are nothing more than the water created in the burning of a hydrocarbon. Newsflash, the family car makes water when the engine is running too.

Does it stay in the air for a prolonged period of time?

[Spikes]

Does it stay in the air for a prolonged period of time?

If it's cold at altitude, which it always is, yes. The ice crystals cannot quickly evaporate in very cold temps.

[Busher]

If it's cold at altitude, which it always is, yes. The ice crystals cannot quickly evaporate in very cold temps.

And if the layer where the contrails form is cold and humid with stable upper winds, they can linger for hours.

[Eagler]

They don't need to put the chemicals in the clouds when they are easily putting it in our foods...

Eagler

[DmonSlyr]

Airforce whistleblower who worked in the department exposing it. Worth a listen.

https://rumble.com/v5ghanh-chemtrail-whistle-blower-and-former-military-engineer-kristen-megan-chemtra.html

Why would Florida make a law if they didnt have some understanding of the situation. Unfortunately its still happening through.

florida chemtrail law:

Florida passed legislation (Senate Bill 56) in 2025 that prohibits "geoengineering" and "weather modification" activities, specifically targeting the release of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere intended to alter weather, temperature, or sunlight. Signed by Governor Ron DeSantis and effective in 2025, the law is aimed at curbing unauthorized atmospheric experimentation and addresses concerns related to the "chemtrail" conspiracy theory.
Key Aspects of the Florida Law (SB 56/HB 477)
Prohibited Activities: The law bans the intentional injection, release, or dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere to affect temperature, weather, or sunlight.
Penalties: Violations are considered a third-degree felony, punishable by up to five years in prison and fines of up to $100,000.
Airport Reporting: Starting October 1, 2025, public-use airports are required to report monthly to the Florida Department of Transportation on any aircraft equipped with devices for weather modification or aerosol dispersion.
Public Reporting Portal: The Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) was tasked with creating a system for residents to report suspected violations.
Licensing Repeal: The legislation repeals previous state provisions that allowed for permitted weather modification.


Yes they are spraying heavy metals into the atmosphere which is ruining crop production. Majorly hurting our forest, and part of the reason these forest fires are worse than they've ever neen before.

I can always tell when they are spraying due to the almost perfect spacing of trails

Florida near Orlando



Florida near Daytona Beach



Oregon




Full day of spraying over Portland

[Meatwad]

Guess some people don't understand how weather, clouds, and condensation trails from aircraft engines work.