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Offline caldera

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #150 on: November 03, 2026, 02:00:16 PM »
I think eny values needed revising more than the activation threshold, especially on the Yak-3.

I agree 100%.   :D
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #151 on: November 03, 2026, 02:34:57 PM »
Animal, I am not trying to contradict you, just want to shine some light on what you are referring to.

Having country numbers like 16/5/5 is what is bad for biz. That’s the real issue. The ENY is just something trying to help with the basic issue.

Any suggestion that is not trying to help the basic issue will be pretty much ignored by me. Any argument trying to say that’s not an issue because (whatever) is also just ignored.

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Ya I get it. Just throwing stuff out there and reflecting what others say to me. It’s not the epic subject for me. D9 or A5 for me

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #152 on: November 03, 2026, 02:36:23 PM »
I agree 100%.   :D
So sick of Yak3s that I’d like to see them perked at this point. Wouldn’t be so bad if they weren’t bullet resistant.

On the ENY note. Some of this can actually be countered by us players taking some personal accountability. The 2v1 seems to feed into the throttled team logging off in disgust. I make it a personal point to NOT to be part of the GB as often as I’m able. You’ll often see me as a lone contact on the quiet front. Trying to stir up some action. When I give my teammates grief about it I get the “but they did it to us” excuse more often than not. Which is not an acceptable answer to me.

Still..ENY has served its purpose for years and been a fantastic tool up to this point. It’s clear, however, that it needs some tweaking. I honestly don’t know what the solution is other than to scale its severity based on total numbers in the area? 100 vs 50 should engage some severe ENY but 10 vs 5 should not. As the MA gets quieter, it feels like you can be knee deep in poop and the hangar is half blocked out. Something like, when a certain total population threshold hits (say below 40), ENY is capped at 15 or some other number that feels right? Imposing a slight limitation but not crippling.
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #153 on: November 03, 2026, 02:48:39 PM »
I think the subject depends on how one squints their eyes. Several things can be right at the same time.

At least HT is willing to tweak it. Keep track of what is changing to avoid missteps.

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #154 on: November 03, 2026, 02:50:44 PM »
Wouldn't getting rid of a side fix the ENY issue...

What if when a side loses so many bases it is basically "conquered" and disappears, leaving just two sides to battle out for the rest of the map..

Players from the defeated side would be placed into the losing side when they log in..

It then resets back to 3 sides when a new map is started..

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #155 on: November 03, 2026, 02:56:13 PM »
Wouldn't getting rid of a side fix the ENY issue...

What if when a side loses so many bases it is basically "conquered" and disappears, leaving just two sides to battle out for the rest of the map..

Players from the defeated side would be placed into the losing side when they log in..

It then resets back to 3 sides when a new map is started..

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2026, 02:56:22 PM »
Wouldn't getting rid of a side fix the ENY issue...

What if when a side loses so many bases it is basically "conquered" and disappears, leaving just two sides to battle out for the rest of the map..

Players from the defeated side would be placed into the losing side when they log in..

It then resets back to 3 sides when a new map is started..

Eagler

Lol no offense but thats your obsession , like LilMak on Dar, gg on ENY. Every subject is a lobby.

We explained the why nots many times. They haven’t changed

It can get much worse with 2.
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #157 on: November 03, 2026, 02:58:39 PM »
Wouldn't getting rid of a side fix the ENY issue...

What if when a side loses so many bases it is basically "conquered" and disappears, leaving just two sides to battle out for the rest of the map..

Players from the defeated side would be placed into the losing side when they log in..

It then resets back to 3 sides when a new map is started..

Eagler

It would make it worse.

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« Reply #158 on: November 03, 2026, 02:59:30 PM »
Yes, we can. Please let us know when you’ll have all these maps completed to use. When do you anticipate being finished?

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« Reply #159 on: November 03, 2026, 03:01:54 PM »
Can people who are willing to switch to lower numbered sides be exempt from the side-switch timer to some extent? Or a drastically reduced timer (such as 30 mins-1hr)? That was always the sticking point for me, if I switch once, that is it for the night.

Had not heard that one before, will have to think on it.

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« Reply #160 on: November 03, 2026, 03:16:04 PM »
Having country numbers like 16/5/5 is what is bad for biz. That’s the real issue. The ENY is just something trying to help with the basic issue.

Agreed.  I was never a fan of ENY, but understood what you were trying to achieve.  If you are not going to enforce balance, you have to do something.  But people can get really attached to their favorite plane.

Could something like a ENY down-time multiplier take the place of limiting aircraft?  That would be another way of throttling a high-side.




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Re: ENY again
« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2026, 03:59:56 PM »
Agreed.  I was never a fan of ENY, but understood what you were trying to achieve.  If you are not going to enforce balance, you have to do something.  But people can get really attached to their favorite plane.

Could something like a ENY down-time multiplier take the place of limiting aircraft?  That would be another way of throttling a high-side.

Wouldn't really help the discrepancy.

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« Reply #162 on: November 03, 2026, 04:28:31 PM »
Would really help the descrepency.

I assume that should have been "wouldn't".
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« Reply #163 on: November 03, 2026, 04:28:58 PM »
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« Reply #164 on: November 03, 2026, 04:30:39 PM »
It still feels to me that side balancing an ENY are two separate discussions. I’m sticking with my view that ENY is meant to balance options not populations. If it does balance the population, then that is a perk not a design.

I could be wrong. I’m sure someone will let me know.
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