Sorry to hear an AH pilot can't read

[moose1am]

Hi:
I think that Smoo makes a good poing about the FOV in the two different camera lenses.  I use both those lenses to take pictures and the 35mm lense shows a much wider field of view that the human eye see.  

Also the mouse can be used in the FAIII 3D cockpit veiw to show more or less of the instruement gauges. And the Seat can be set back some with the 4 key helping to see even more of the instrument gauges while still looking out over the dashboard.  The seat can even be raised with the page up key or lowered with the page down key. The pilots head can be moved either to the left or to the right also. All this can be done while in the Ctrl F4 or 3DCockpit view.

[Habu]

Version 3.5 is out and it even better than 3.0. Much better graphics than Aces High and an excellent flight model.

It is good to see WW2OL AH and FA all alive and kicking a year later.

[straffo]

how can we test it ?
didn't found a download ...

[Vulcan]

Dunno bout this, I have perfect good colour vision to the edge my periphery vision. I have clear vision with about 90 degrees field of view as well.

So I tend to find AH's FOV a little limiting

Originally posted by SmooMonster
The problem with FOV is the focus thing. If you look straight ahead and pick the edge of your focussed vision, it will give you a FOV of around 45 degrees (as modelled in FA). However if you include your peripheral vision, which is not in focus (and actually in black and white IRL - peripheral vision does not pick up colour, fact fans), then it expands to about 60 degrees or so (which seems to be roughly what you have in AH). However in AH, you have perfect vision and clarity throughout the 60 degree FOV.

[Vulcan]

Your convergent point is too far forward, and to the right too much.

Originally posted by SmooMonster
Okay, this isn't easy to do - I'm no 3D modeller, so I don't even begin to claim this is entirely accurate.

But this give an *idea* of the amount of deflection required to read those instruments if you're sitting with the gunsight at eye level.

As you can see, it is quite a bit of distance required for the eye to travel...and far, far more than anything like which is modelled in AH.

IRL, you have to take your eyes OFF the action in front of you to see what's on your instruments - what's happening beyond your cockpit doesn't even register on your peripheral vision...as modelled in FA.

[Habu]

Originally posted by straffo
how can we test it ?
didn't found a download ...

They are selling it as a box game now with a free 3 month sub if you buy it.

If you have any old version of the game and and old name you can download it for free  but have to pay 10 a month to play.

Buying the box is the best deal as you can usually get it below $30 which is cheaper if you decide to keep playing it. Also if you can return the game to the retailer then you can play it for a day and then send it back if you do not like it.

[gofaster]

I already have an online ww2 flight sim that keeps getting updates.

[Ripsnort]

I normally stay out of these pissing matches, but what does it say about a sim when its users go out to recruit others on their respective boards?  Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that theres a problem.

Once I did push AH in its infancy, it NEEDED players.  It frankly needed alot of features, and we eventually received them.  But no use in doing it now, since the sim speaks for itself (as well as the die-hard folllowers/supporters)

Whenever I see another sim being "pushed" by its users on this BBS, red flags go up and tell me intuitively to "stay away from THAT one, they feel the need to recruit, then theres something fishy about the sim" or "Its incomplete, not ready for prime time"

So, I guess what I am saying to the FA folks..."Thanks for the warning!"

[texace]

Why is it that when I read Smoo's posts praising FA I imagine he's an evangelist somewhere preaching to the non-believers.

"Yes, my friends, thou hast sinned. Thou hast been tainted by the unholiness that is AH! But there is hope, my friends. I have seen the light, and I am here to teach it to you! Your souls have been corrupted by HTC, the devils they are. I shall pray for you. Convert to the light! Be forgiven for your sins! Join me and we shall acsend into flight sim Heaven together!"

FA is crap IMO...AH is where it's at...

[AKIron]

Looks like you cannot upgrade from 3 to 3.5 without a paying account?

[Habu]

Originally posted by AKIron
Looks like you cannot upgrade from 3 to 3.5 without a paying account?

I am pretty sure you can. Just try it and see what happens.

Regarding the other replys.

In my opinion AH has a much better online community than FA whose online community is being run by a couple of power hungry bananas. There are also a few real whiners in the game but then again AH has some as well.

However FA seems to be fun to play and the eye candy is nice. Flight model is pretty nice too.

When I started taking real life flying lessons this past summer my instructors were ready to solo me after 5 hours but I had to keep on building time until I had the minimum required. All the stick time in these games is why I suppose.

[vorticon]

ok so were expected to listen to a person who has only played FA3 and cfs2 (cfs2 is in my opinion rated slightly above ace of aces ni all respects)

as for the graphics well...lets just say i like my fps ABOVE 2 (hell they dont even look accurate or good...i think chubbs has made more historically acurate skins)

[ccvi]

Originally posted by SmooMonster
Hmmm - first one looked so nice I thought it was actually an FA3 screenie until I noticed there was no texture mapping on the planes. Ah well.

If nothing changed in the last few years...

texture mapping is a technique used to fill faces with data from a bitmap. AH, like almost every 3d game released after 1996 does that.

Maybe you're talking of something else

[ccvi]

Originally posted by SmooMonster
The problem with FOV is the focus thing. If you look straight ahead and pick the edge of your focussed vision, it will give you a FOV of around 45 degrees (as modelled in FA). However if you include your peripheral vision, which is not in focus (and actually in black and white IRL - peripheral vision does not pick up colour, fact fans), then it expands to about 60 degrees or so (which seems to be roughly what you have in AH). However in AH, you have perfect vision and clarity throughout the 60 degree FOV.

If I look straight ahead and strech my arms out left and right I can see both hands at the same time.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Habu
I am pretty sure you can. Just try it and see what happens.
 

How? The link says to login to update to 3.5. When I start to create an account so that I may login I am asked for a credit card.