organization ruining the MA.

[ghostdancer]

And Rude is definitely an old fart.

Didn't know that was you Ice till I was chatting with Sax about the TOD event this friday and asked him if you guys were the descendents of the 13th TAS that I flew with back in 1996 and AW2.

Good to see you still up and annoying people.

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As for the MA you are right it is what it is until HiTech decides to change things. My outlook and most of my squad is that we will adapt to it and fly in the way that generates the most fun and interest for us.

If they went RPS we would adapt to that. If the bases our made harder it just means we have more fun figuring out how to take them out and smash the opposing country. If strat changes we will figure out how to best use it (right now we used it to support base captures and do tactical bombing of facilities along with hitting strat facilities), etc.

We and others organized large ops because we got tired of being beat up by large ops. Basically the game evolves and comes in waves with different styles of play and cultures evolving. With 1000s of people playing you have to accept it and adapt to things as best you can and hope for HiTech to listen at time and find solutions to glaring problems.

[Rude]

Heyas Ghost You the 13th TAS Ghost of old??? If ya are, how ya been? We will have to chat and catch up...maybe I'll call Doom and send him after Lazs...that would be a sight hih:D Your attitude is the best kind to have...can't fight progress eh?

Leph....

I agree....I'm just saying, most are happy as it is...it is the very small minority of old players who find the most to complain about...with the exception of myself, of course:)

[ghostdancer]

Nope .. can't fight it. Can try to trick progress into going where you would like to see it go though.  You just can't let it know that you are tricking it, otherwise it can get a bit stubborn.

[ghostdancer]

Rude,

Yep I am the Ghost Dancer that flew with you guys back in 1996. Have used the same from the very beginning of flying AW back in 1993 .. although I can't remember my tail number off the top of my head.

I remember flying with you (Ice, Doom, and Shark Bait). Was good times and I remember shutting down whole countries during our squad nights.

Good to see the squad has survived. I even still have the old squad patch from back then:

[Wlfgng]

I had to post didn't I ?  heh

IMO the distance between fields does not affect squat.
We have different maps with different distances between fields.
Still furballers and strat guys.  NO DIFFERENCE.

[lazs2]

rude.. not sure a rolling plane set would be popular.   I like it fine but most don't seem to.   Send "doom" after me?  LOL ... not ol doomie?  By all means sick em on me!  

Rolling "perk"  ACK!!!  worst of all worlds.   How is that fair or fun for the new guys?  Please don't tell me it gives em a "goal"  toejam... they got enough "goals" as new guys.   How come they need "goals" but the old farts don't?  
lazs

[Rude]

Hiyas ghost:)

Man that squad art is old...forgot about it altogether:)

Hope you are doing well....you need to change squads man...we have a great group.

We had alot of fun back then...Now we're just old and wealthy:) I told the guys about shutting down entire countries, not sure they believed me...Kinda hard to do that here.

Take care and look me up when you're online.

Cyas Up!

[Tjay]

Originally posted by loser

However, there is no greater joy for me than when a call comes out from a countryman (eg Busher  ) that a base is being pummeled i land as quickly as possible and go to the base that is taking it in the brown.  Why? because that is some of the most fun i ever have in the sim.  Not only do you have the thrill of being the underdog, but if the base is held with a few selfless and score ignorant teamates, you have the feeling of a job well done, of beating the odds of a huge attack etc... To me that is ten times the feeling of a hat-trick sortie in a fur-ball.
B]

Agree. But it's just a personal thing. At the begining of every tour I promise myself I won't do it. Cos as we all know, I am obsessed with my ranking and K/D ratio. I really do want to become a calculating, steely eyed ace, not a manic Spit V or Hurricane driver who rarely gets above 100ft.

[Tjay]

Originally posted by Staga

This pic was also from one of those missions; afair we had only 2 or 3 fields left in the SE corner of map but with missions running we were soon doing just fine

Very nice indeed. As an old RL military pilot I would love to see more of this. Squads rtb with a proper run in and break? Drool.

[ccvi]

Originally posted by eddiek
Can anyone else reading this imagine what it would be like if Lazs had control of the game?  After he implemented all his ideas and wishes, what would he have?     Answer:  An arena populated by one or two people, maybe not that many.

Yeah, I've been there before. That's warbirds

[Mark Luper]

I have, as many here, automaticaly assumed laz2 was a bit off balance.

I don't think that anymore. Surprised?

I never have been an ultra reality freak except when it comes to the mechanics of flying these birds, but I have always enjoyed a "pretty realistic" rendition of what I "thought" went on in WWII air combat.

Two things to consider here...
1) Is the reality of air combat, mano a mano, plane vrs plane what you really want or...
2) Is it the strategic elements that actually won the war that you want to fantasize about when you play this sim/game?

Each has it's place. I find the air combat portion of it more satisfying however, unlike our freind laz, I like to do it in the CT (untill this week). I do prefer to fly longer distances and fight historical opponents.  I don't really care much for strat myself, but that is me.

I can see where strat can ruin the game for those who really only prefer to do air to air combat. I can also see the need to provide "strat" for those who like that aspect of it.  

Is there a place where all can do what they want? Maybe... it depends on how willing each side of this question is ready to compromise to allow all to have "their" form of fun.

I personally don't see how it would be possible for HTC to cater to all those involved without leaving someone out with a bent nose. What they have managed to do is provide the tools for all to do what they want. It is up to us, the players, then to accomodate each other.

Calling each other names and pointing fingers never set well with me, for one thing, if I was pointing my finger at someone at least three of those fingers were pointing back at me.

Is there a "real" solution? I don't think so, not in a Main Arena. I think it would take multiple arenas to make everyone happy. How many can HTC afford to put up and still make money?

Guys (I use this for both genders) get real. This is only a game. HTC has done what I think is a wonderful job of building it. They have provided us with an exorbitant amount of tools to have fun with, let's do just that, have fun:).

[AKDejaVu]

The tour lazs posted this he spent 38 hours in the MA.  This tour he has spent just over 7.  The ironic thing is the MA has become more and more like lazs claims he wants it to be.

Be carefull what you wish for.. you just might get it.

AKDejaVu

[bowser]

Well I see a lot of gang banging, but not much furballin' in the MA these days.  Big difference.  

Gang banging usually happens when some strat types overrun a field with numbers, though I'm not sure how much strategy is involved in that.

bowser

[fd ski]

Arena split in TWO parts , separated by montain range 60000ft high ( or whatever it takes to keep people from crossing it )

One part has your current MA flavor type planeset.

Other part has the limited planetset ( RPS maybe ? )

All countries have fields on both sides and if any contry is limited to less then 2 fields on EITHER side of the map, war is won ( just like in MA now - but would apply to both field sets ).

Would allow you to fly either flavor without switching arenas, and have strat interact.

Attached a raw map Yah, i know i can't draw for toejam

[Urchin]

You know that right?  I make a 'whine post' about how sick and tired I am of getting gangbanged.  Your response is along the lines of..  "u sux0r and u r @ Luftwhiner"...  

But here is a whoopee thread by... you.  And while I haven't got the patience to read through 3 pages of "Lazsterbation", from what I did read you think only ORGANIZED gangbangs are bad.. I.E. capturing fields.  If a fight is 6 or 7 on 1, you'll dive in no matter how bad the odds are.. for the enemy pilot of course.  At least that is how you are coming across to this particular 'Luftwhiner'.