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Offline eddiek

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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2002, 10:52:52 AM »
Last time I looked, Lazs was flying rook....and I never heard a THING against the opposition and their missions or tactics when I am online.  I fly rook too, not a thing on the country channel griping about the "organization" of the bishes or nits.
Lazs, how about getting some of these "new guys" who are chafing about the current setup to post in here in support of your claims?  So far, you are the only one who feels the way you do, or at least, no one else cares enough to post in here saying they feel the same way you do.

Hangtime, email me will ya?  I got an idea cooking.................

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2002, 10:58:15 AM »
Laz at first read i had to agree with midnight.

But because you took the time to post your thoughts, however crazy, they deserve a genuine response.

I dont really see anything wrong with mass attacks.  In fact i have been part of a few, on both the attacking and defending end.  I agree with you that there has been alot of this going on lately....GOOD sez I!!!!!

There is nothing worse than having you countrymen split amongst a dozen or more targets.  It ends up in a fruitless and monotomous die and respawn festival with little or no ground gained.  That may be fine for you, but some of enjoy the "strat" element of the game and talking fields.  What better way to achieve this than make a mass attack.

Personally i love flying in an organized mission with light int. fighters, jabo fighters, buffs and gruntwagons.  To ME this is not only a hell of alot of fun, but is, brace yourself....somewhat historically realistic.

Now then, as for your comments about a huge mass messing up a base and only a few clueless newbies upping in a desperate attempt to foil the organized swarm, you are, for the most part, absolutely right.

But this fact has nothing to do with the size of the incoming raid.  Most of us would rather go hunting than be hunted right?  However, there is no greater joy for me than when a call comes out from a countryman (eg Busher :)  ) that a base is being pummeled i land as quickly as possible and go to the base that is taking it in the brown.  Why? because that is some of the most fun i ever have in the sim.  Not only do you have the thrill of being the underdog, but if the base is held with a few selfless and score ignorant teamates, you have the feeling of a job well done, of beating the odds of a huge attack etc... To me that is ten times the feeling of a hat-trick sortie in a fur-ball.

As to your suggestion that we move the bases closer together.  Wont this just make things worse?  I mean the huge gang raids will still happen, but there will just be less warning time from the sector, dot dar.  Thew way things stand now, if you see a swarm of cons at least you have time to land and get a bit of alt at the attacked base before that attack starts.

One other point Laz.  You have been here for a long time, you may even be considered one of the "elite."  Therefore you feel no fear in upping with a few skilled wingmates and going hunting. However new customers and sticks, in my opinion, benefit from having a large number of pilots to fly with on a mission.  They get to learn formation tactics, wingman tactics, proper comm usage (unless i am also tuned to the mission channel, then they learn how NOT to do things) and best of all:  a sense of community.

Just my thoughts on your post, take it for what you will.


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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2002, 11:02:05 AM »
Oh, so lazs is my opposit I guess.

Not many things are better then organization IMO, damn fun when a plan comes together and you see the enemy fields go under to the knight supremacy, one by one as you hear the enemy scream out for mercy!
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2002, 11:05:19 AM »
Hehe Wilbuz. Over the week-end was an example, capturing 31, then hitting cities, HQ, then capping HQ to prevent goons from coming.  Dog fites all over that area...laz would have had a good time.

Offline eddiek

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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2002, 11:08:39 AM »
Come on, Lazs, where is your supporting cast?  Opinions opposite your coming in, yet nothing from anyone on "your" side?  :D

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2002, 11:09:22 AM »
Lazs, please continue to suppose things...

The truth is I've learned better than to discuss with you. Learning to read Noldor Elvish would be a lesser waste of time.
So I just answered to your grotesque post with a grotesque suggestion...I was assuming a lot of ;) :D :p weren't necessary to view my previous post as a smartass comment, which didn't required any answer...I guess I was wrong.
Btw, your post could have been a superb troll. The problem is that you meant every word of it.

HT, balance is indeed the key. Lazs seems just a tad off-balance to me...but maybe it is just me.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2002, 11:16:38 AM »
This new BB rocks!

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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2002, 11:19:46 AM »
LOL Staga!  The sad part is, his lone opinion, or damn near lone...is "heard".  Just take a look from V1.05 to V1.08.

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2002, 11:22:04 AM »
Is Lazs a curmdgon (sp?) or what? He's like this stubborn ol'mule that you just gotta like due to his never faltering views. :)


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Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2002, 11:24:54 AM »
CC Rip, was there for a little while (new stick giving me trouble). Was FUUUUN! :D

Flew an IL2 (yeha yeha yeha, I got a bit hungry for it after playing IL2) to teh rook city/train, took one hell uf a beating from the train before going down :)
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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2002, 11:49:18 AM »
I spent most of last night trying unsuccessfully to find a fight.  Showing up at a enemy field where 30 friendlies are circling it hoping to vulch someone isn't much fun.  Likewise taking off from a field with 30 enemy overhead lacks appeal.  The arena would be a lot more fun if the strat system generated lots of 30 x 30 fights rather than 30 x 1 fights.  More numerous closer fields that were easy to capture and recapture (but difficult to disable) would possibly help.

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2002, 11:52:54 AM »
Note: Hooli and laz on the same squadron. ;)

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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2002, 11:56:57 AM »
Do I think organization is ruining the MA? No. I actually advocate strat guys having thier way, to a point. It promotes fights IMHO. Is effective organization having an impact? Yep.

We have some rooks here now that are exceptional organizers. Multi-squad strikes are the norm in rookland lately. I applaud them. Well done.

An example of what lazs is pointing out was lastnight. Every field we flew to was flat, lol. Buffed, capped and goon OTW. Seriously. It was 4 or 5 in a row. Guess we just didn't fly fast enough. :)
What few cons were there, they weren't defending, they were in escape mode. T'weren't no fightin' unless you ran em down.

Captures are way too easy. These multi-squad strikes are very sufficient with capable leaders. They're too good, lol. These guys can take a base in 1 strike. I've seen feilds roll up over and over. I've been in AH from the start. Noone has been this organized before. It's kinda like the JPC we had in WB but these guys are on every night! :) Now, thats good when you log on and have 4 or 5 bases. These guys get started and in an hour or so, you got 10.

IMHO it would balance a little better if fields were a little more difficult to capture, ie., harder tin roofs on the hangars :) or revetments, harder CV's, you get the idea.

But then what do I know? I fly with lazs, :D

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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2002, 11:59:54 AM »
Well, Hitech, if lazs mean spirited posting is considered by you a balance I think you need to have your scales checked very soon.

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« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2002, 12:00:43 PM »
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Originally posted by eddiek
Come on, Lazs, where is your supporting cast?  Opinions opposite your coming in, yet nothing from anyone on "your" side?  :D


I for one think he's hilarious.

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