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« on: February 01, 2002, 07:21:43 AM »
So apparently in his new presidential order GWB now classifies a fetus as a person and initialed to medical care benefits (wtg GW).

I love the quote I heard on the news from an 'abortion services provider' when asked why she was against it.  "If a fetus is a person, then what we are doing is murder."

Wow, I guess I was wrong, maybe they are capable of understanding that it is indeed murder.

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2002, 07:44:55 AM »
I find it sad how some people try to justify their actions by attaching other names to their victims. "We are not ending a life, we are removing a fetus".

On a sidenote, my personal views on abortion changed 180 degrees after my son was born. I wonder if its just me, but my world changed when I watched him transform from "bumpy unknown thingy inside wife's belly" to "tiny person screaming at the top of his lungs wanting food and safety".

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2002, 08:06:25 AM »
Ya, nothing like having a kid of your own (and everything that goes along with it) to put things in perspective.  
I don't believe anyone can put their hand on a woman’s stomach, feel a baby kick. And think, "hey, the 'fetus' is kicking".

I know of no one who considers a baby they plan to carry to term a fetus.  They’re only called fetuses when the plan is to kill them because they are inconvenient.

You ever go with a pregnant woman to the Dr. for an ultra-sound? Even Dr.'s say, "would you like to see your baby?” never have heard them call it a fetus either, unless they plan to 'remove' the child.

They know it's a baby, we know it's a baby. It’s all just verbal gymnastics to justify a horrible act.

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2002, 08:11:54 AM »
yep, this one and the one about the fetus having rights passed earlier are steps in the RIGHT direction.

Funny to hear the "Pro Murder er CHoice" complaining about it :)

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2002, 08:15:53 AM »
i find it funny that the very people who always cry 'quality of life' are complaining about added health benifits for unborn children, they should be all for this improvement to 'quality of life'.

btw,  watch closely 'cause you wont see me say it often- WTG GW!

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2002, 08:17:27 AM »
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I don't believe anyone can put their hand on a woman’s stomach, feel a baby kick. And think, "hey, the 'fetus' is kicking".
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ROFL

You sure make a good point. I know I would have *killed* anyone who had said that to me or the wife.

Btw, on a related issue. Is the Chinese abortion policy correctly described in Tom Clancy's The bear and the dragon? Because if it is, then I think we need to outlaw China or something.

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2002, 08:38:54 AM »
The shrub and I agree on something. :D

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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2002, 08:46:39 AM »
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Originally posted by weazel
The shrub and I agree on something. :D



OMG!! Another sign of the Apocalypse! :)
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2002, 09:04:40 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2002, 09:10:34 AM »
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The shrub and I agree on something. :D



that's it I quit being a doper!!!!  I'm halucinating wildly!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :D

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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2002, 09:55:40 AM »
Yeah this is great news!

But why stop at something that isn't born yet? Let's go after masterbaters and people who use condoms. They waste sperm so isn't that the same?

Wait what about girls who give head? Maybe we should pass a law that says they have to swallow so the sperm has a chance to some how become a fetus.
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2002, 10:08:00 AM »
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But why stop at something that isn't born yet? Let's go after masterbaters and people who use condoms. They waste sperm so isn't that the same?


Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great!
If a sperm gets wasted, God gets quite irate!

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as for the felatio comment, actually, I think it IS illegal in Florida.  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2002, 10:10:27 AM »
nobody sugested that anybody be required to become pregnant.  just that you not kill others to simplify your life.

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2002, 10:20:26 AM »
When does life start?

Seems to me you people are already telling us when you think life begins.

So how many of you Pro-lifers have adopted kids? How many of you don't eat meat?
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2002, 10:30:02 AM »
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So how many of you Pro-lifers have adopted kids? How many of you don't eat meat?


great points :rolleyes:

I guess u r an abortion expert? any experience with the lovely procedure?
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