SuperBowl Anti-drug Commercials

[gavor]

People in Australia who read this anti-alcohol and anti-tobacco stuff would pass out in terror.


But seriously folks, i love a drink and i do so regularly. I love a smoke too. I see and understand the damage these two do alone, without involving other drugs the discussion. But if we banned everything fun and all did the right clean thing, wouldn't it be boring? What would be the point of life? Life if fun.

I'm not saying that fun can't be had without beer, i regularly have sober fun and smoke-less fun. But alcohol is fun too. Perhaps if people who abused alcohol were more heavily penalised things would be a little better. Perhaps. Just musing.

[mrfish]

you part time christians crack me up is all - some thread about homo teachers insights you to riot and quote great tracts of the good book but you hear people talking about mass executions and you sit back quietly. sounds familiar actually...

maybe it isnt fair to bring religion in but the most pious types seem to apply their lofty morals selectively - mainly to distant political issues, but not to trench level discussions.

get outraged with parity is my point.

where would you have been when jesus was kickin on tables? hiding behind a column no doubt trying to keep a low profile.

yeah i did say that because it fits my agenda - exposing hypocrisy. government and religious hypocrasy are just easy targets - sorry

whether it is some kid at his mommy's house talking about ovedosing on weed (lol), yet advocating legal alcohol - or some guy that claims to be a 24 hour per day red hot christian that sits back stoicly while some mini-fidel talks about mass executions and killing fellow board members.

its all part of the same contempt kieran.

and p.s. i think it's great if people dont use drugs - my wife is sober as a church-mouse and it doesnt bother me in the least. she's a naturally happy and adjusted person - drugs would be redundant for her. you gotta know your limits and be confident in yourself - then nothing will drag you to the gutter.

those dare cops arent bad they are doing what they is right to help kids but it isnt the final answer to everything and my cop friends know that as well as i do (yes i actually have cop friends)

to an extent the commercials are true - but if you know where your supply is coming from then you don't owe anyone any explanation. i dont buy any afgan heroin or columbian cocaine so i dont owe anyone toejam for an explanation.

all drug users are not on the street begging for a fix. my bmw 325i.s. is paid in full and i saved enough money from my last job to take the next two years off and go back to school to better myself.

...all the while paying rent for a nice apartment in one of america's most exclusive neighborhoods. i paid uncle sam and have a happy wife and cat and even established a college fund for my 12-year old god-daughter whose mother lives in a transient hotel (and isnt on drugs amazingly), instead of making money i also worked for years at a free legal aid clinic handling 1500+ cases per year for a pittance of a salary at $10k per year,  so i dont owe any of you DICK.

educating kids about the realities and not the transient socio-political truths about drugs is the answer - not getting them to respond with genocide everytime the issue comes up.

then you are training blind little nationalists like Joe "crip" (gang reference?)and soviet (how appropriate eh?)

- not good citizens.

[N1kPaz]

pot makes me creative...might be a wives tale, but it sure as hell works for me.

[Toad]

Wow, what a rational, well-argued thread from the very start to the present end.

NOT.

I would participate but there's just too much pointless mudslinging and gratuitous vulgarity coupled with a near-total lack of actual debate... even I, the eternal discusser am walking away from this mess.

[funkedup]

Joe-Sov-Crip lisped:

You diddlying cock sucker, we're not in junior high we're both 23 and have grown up in the same town our whole lives. The fact is drug users are studmuffingots who need a life, pot is wrong man accept the fact.

By the way you two defend each other I think you must be butt buddies.  Which one is the pitcher and which one is the catcher?
 Drug users are studmuffingots?  I know some straight ones.  Are they lying?  You'd think a couple of lovers like you would have better gaydar. ..

funked, i am 23, i follow the law, and work hard. I did listen to the DARE cops and look now.

Yeah look now.  You're a prejudiced foul-mouthed brainwashed moron who has homicidal fantasies.  Yes I would like Cinnastix with that.

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mrFish
AKS
Funked.
Animal
Sandman

Nope, I don't use drugs and I have the urine tests to prove it.  I wanted Cinnastix, not slander.  Get busy.

Just because me and Soviet dont do drugs we are being ganged?

No because you two ladies are a couple of pukes who came on this board and turned a polite discussion into a profane bigoted personal diatribe against some people I'm fond of.  Piss off kiddies.

[Kieran]

you part time christians crack me up is all - some thread about homo teachers insights you to riot and quote great tracts of the good book but you hear people talking about mass executions and you sit back quietly. sounds familiar actually...

In actuality:

A) I haven't condemned you for anything. I said drugs are illegal and alcohol is not, and by that fact buying a product that cannot legally be purchased in this country has to support black markets. The sinister nature of such markets I did not even begin to discuss. You are reading much into my words. To say that I am outraged that you enjoy dope is beyond inaccurate.

B) I worked tonight. Much of this conversation occurred while I was away. Still, am I required to post against such out of bounds comments? Could you not see it yourself? Didn't enough people already tell those guys they were nuts? At what point does it become "piling on"? How is a rational conversation going to reach them after a point. Sorry I wasn't here for you, Mr.Fish.

C) I do work towards keeping kids off alcohol and drugs. This doesn't mean I never smoked marijuana in school (in fact, I did) or drank (again, I did). What it means is I am attempting to impart my experiences in a useful way to my students. Sorry if telling them going down the drug and alcohol path is bad idea is against your wishes or ideology, but, well, I happen to believe it is the right thing to do- and that viewpoint has nothing to do with my faith.

D) You are using this as an excuse to take a cheapshot at a group that has nothing to do with this debate. That is bigoted and  hypocritical. Physician, heal thyself.

[Kieran]

I'll pray for you anyway.

[mrfish]

alright, alright - fair enough.

i'll accept part of that criticism and besides, praying for people who dog you is super cool - really, no sarcasm.  

[Kieran]

No harm done. I actually accept you challenging my viewpoints on religion as healthy. I just didn't see it coming here. Besides, the both of us going hyperbolic isn't going to make this thread any better.

[Nash]

Hehe cool thread. Big Kudos I guess for avoiding drugs 'n stuff Soviet and Joe... I guess... no actually, wtg on that... but christ.   If ya don't know then ya don't know and some of the stuff you're comin' up with is priceless.

Btw - what's  dare cop? Sounds like a cop handing you a joint with his right hand while holdin' cuffs with his left.

[capt. apathy]

the idea that anyone who gets high is supporting terrorism is pure BS.

most pot that isn't domestic is from mexico (not curently a huge terrorist threat)

The main drug from the regions we are currently having trouble with is heroin or other opium derivatives, last I heard while they where in power the telaban was active in trying to stop poppy growth, and executing growers.  so the telaban is also very anti-drug.

So maybe every time a junky shoots up he's doing his part to fight terrorism.

[capt. apathy]

what's dare cop?

we got these d.a.r.e. cops (drug abuse resistance education, i think) the come to the schools and do a presintation. and the kids get there dose of anti-drug propoganda instead of an education.

the usually show up in a corvett they confinscated and painted up for their purpose.

they brag about how they raid peoples house for growing pot and take the kids away and take all the peoples property and auction it off to fund their next raid.

then they tell the kids how they can be a hero if they tell the cops how mom smokes weed, and his big brother has some pills in his dresser.

of course they don't tell the kid he'll probly end up in a foster home afterwards or any of the money his parents have saved for his collage will be confinscated.

kinda like the hitler youth thing

[loser]

Originally posted by Tuomio
Please, point one country where alcohol is legal?

Any?

No, it isnt legal if its illegal for underaged, get it? Coffee or sugar can be claimed to be "legal" substance, since its use, sale or manufacturing doesent have any special laws controlling it.
I dont know anybody, who would want pot to be legal, but i know plenty, who wants it to be treated as other partly legal addictive and harmfull substances, like tobacco or alcohol.

There isnt a single working argument against it as long as tobacco and alcohol arent applied by the same drug laws, as pot is.
Btw, if complete prohobition is better policy, than partial legalization, then tell me why US has almost the WORST drug problem in the world. Shouldnt the Dutch be in that situation with its relaxed attitude for drug use? Can you explain me reliably, why this isnt so? Why aint the prohobition cutting the drug use, like its claimed to be doing. You know, US has more marijuana users per capita, than Dutch.

HOW CAN THIS BE POSSIBLE IN COUNTRY WITH NEAR NAZI LIKE DRUG POLICIES? Shouldnt US have almost zero drug use rates?

Prohobition can be reasonable only, if it produces good results, but so far it havent made a single one. In fact, quite opposite, ie. Osama is just like Al Capone, using extremely-wanted-substance-prohobition for getting big bucks.

If your government doesent offer a legal way for you to buy the drug, thus "forcing" (quotes, since the only "have-to" in life is dying) you to buy the drug from black markets, then your government is supporting the black markets, not you. Its that simple.

alcohol is illegal in Libya

[Saintaw]

Joecrips, no need to go to Iraq, Somalia or any other countries like that, come to Belgium, or Holland, wait sorry, am inviting the wrong poeple... MrFish, Udie & (some) other FDB's are welcome anytime

Most of the stuff (green one) was grown HERE, not in a 3rd world country.

Soviet, It's just a cultural thing, You drink, I sm0ke, I've done so for the last 18 years, never had a (drunken) car crash, never got violent when stoned(when drunk I did) Never stole money nor robbed an old lady to get what you probably call "my fix" (since apparently you're not able to make a difference)


Mary Jane and here sisters ARE adictive, maybe not physicaly, but they are. Hell, I'm addicted to Coffee, cigs, women(the worse kind)... probably other things too. does that make me a criminal ?

I agree this shouldn't be put in hands of Children. One needs to be able to have it's own choice/Opinions and learn to enjoy "sober life" before that


Soviet, you need a FAT one man... open your eyes a little.It just makes ME a little bit moe stupid than I originaly am, that is MY problem alone, not YOURS.

[Creamo]

Mr. Fish is a dope.

BELCH.

And I rate this thread a resounding "T".