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Offline Revvin

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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2002, 12:37:40 PM »
lol oops  edited
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2002, 12:39:05 PM »
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Wow! Bring one of those in and let's pork some fields!


If you do that Lazs will haunt you in your dreams :)
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2002, 01:18:35 PM »
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People drop this topic once and for all! Who the hell told you that buff guns are stronger? :rolleyes: They are NOT! And if you die all the time in a fighter trying to attack buffs then YOU are doing something wrong!

AMEN! :p

I don't think Pepe is talking about the guns.  I think he's talking about the unusual flight characteristics of buffs that 1) have dropped their ordnance and 2) have 10-15% fuel load.

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2002, 01:51:44 PM »
what i said in another post. take a 100% fuel lanc or b17 and take it to 20k.. and see if you can pull the split-s or insta-turns.. you will stall halfway in the manouver.

the fuel must be changed so that buffs have to take 100 fuel to get across most of the map.. not this crap of 25% fuel and fly 5 sectors at 15k.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2002, 02:34:25 PM »
Quite the opposite indeed.  I can drop B17s and Lancs with incredible ease (b26 and ju88 are a little harder to kill).

I have always felt the buff guns were longer ranged but I guess they are not.  What is for sure is how easily B17s and Lancs blow up.

Its the guns lethality optimised for instant gratification (ie gameplay) that really chorks things up IMO.  All for the better I guess.   I like to see things explode too...

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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2002, 02:47:53 PM »
The Lancaster had a range of 1,550 miles with a 22,000lb bombload, the B17 had a range of 1,800 miles...fuel burn seems to be correct its just the small scale of map we play on but the altitude of the bombers certainly does need attention I hate to see them being used over their  listed ceiling and instruct all my pilots to not go over those.
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2002, 05:21:36 PM »
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I don't think Pepe is talking about the guns.  I think he's talking about the unusual flight characteristics of buffs that 1) have dropped their ordnance and 2) have 10-15% fuel load.

curly


Exactly....guns mentioned only as a reference.

Thanks for explaining that. :)

Cheers,

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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2002, 05:32:19 PM »
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The Lancaster had a range of 1,550 miles with a 22,000lb bombload, the B17 had a range of 1,800 miles...fuel burn seems to be correct its just the small scale of map we play on but the altitude of the bombers certainly does need attention I hate to see them being used over their  listed ceiling and instruct all my pilots to not go over those.


This says it all Im affraid.... ;) Because acording to area size and even to the fuel consumption multiplyer the numbers seem to be quite OK for the buffs... And we are geting to another problem.. We need biger maps with more distant fields... But I will better not continue on this becaue it would seriously spoil someone's fun (wouldnt it?).... :p

(the area as it is, is way too small for 400 ppl IMHO)
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2002, 06:21:13 PM »
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The Lanc III (if I've got me models right) had Bristol Hercules engines (same as the Beaufighter); which gave a bit more.

It also had a belly gun, albeit in a similar arrangement to the Ju88 (in other words, not a real "belly ball" like the B-17).


Not all variants had the belly gun. I believe it was removed once the Lancaster began doing night raids.
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aside from flight characteristics...
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2002, 10:39:26 PM »
the b17's beta paintjob needs a touch up.  I'd like to see a memphis belle olive drab type scheme... i dont care, i just want it refurbished or a different color :cool:
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« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2002, 05:13:20 AM »
And as for the 30+ k buffs - HTC will give us Me-163s in two weeks anyway so then we will deal with those buffs as well :D
Meanwhile I will let those 35k buffers alone... Any damage they cause is repaired long before they rtb anyway... (dont you just love the new strat system?) ;)
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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2002, 09:44:24 AM »
mad... 2 or 3 hour flights to the fight would be a lot more realisic.   It would be even more so tho if you never saw any enemy fighters.   course, the fluffs would have no idea if they did any damage or not and for the most part, other than flatening a few hospitals and orpjanages, they wouldn't have any effect on anything.
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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2002, 12:12:07 PM »
But it still sounds better than "filelds closer to each other"... Actually closer fields would have 1 benefit.. I would be able to vulch enemy taking off planes from my field's manable ack :D
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