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Offline DingHao2

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« on: July 28, 2001, 12:31:00 PM »
It's main alt advantage is at 35k feet.  Now whose going to take the time to get there?  The 190 d-9 is a low-mid alt fighter. The 152 is a high alt fighter.
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Offline Creamo

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2001, 12:38:00 PM »
Its 1/8th the beast the F4UC is, how about 5 points?
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Offline DingHao2

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2001, 12:44:00 PM »
Tis only 1/8th the beast of the chog @ 30000 ft.+
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2001, 12:47:00 PM »
So at strafe level it's a Chog?

Hmmm, never thought of that.
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Offline SFRT - Frenchy

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2001, 12:56:00 PM »
Don't unperk it, but sure reduce it's cost.

At 15-20K it's still a good beast, I recall dogfighting one, he was runing the show, going in tatatata, going away, climbing ... coming back 4 min later ...tatatata ... runing/climbing.

All day long till finally he ran away for good, probably no ammo or fuel.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2001, 01:16:00 PM »
Its currently used less than the C.202.

Really could use a high alt fighter for buff defense... other than that many fighters will chew the 152 up.

I'm for reducing the perk cost significantly... and am not too against unperking it all together.

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Offline Hristo

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2001, 01:25:00 PM »
It is perked mostly because it was rare, rather than because of its performance.

Still, it had some great points. IMO, it is the best Axis diver (even better than the D-9). Excellent E retention (almost as P51  ;)). Takes ages for it to slow to level speed after a dive. Somewhat good turning ability, but P51B will chew it up in a knifefight down low.

Guns are pretty good, only low sight line reduces deflection shooting abilities.

Should stay perked, it was rare. I rather take up the D-9, wings stay attached in those pullouts. Ta 152c, on the other hand...nevermind, Focke wulf set is fairly well represented.
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Offline mrfish

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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2001, 01:40:00 PM »
i agree that it should stay perked but at a reduced price.

i think hitech not only perks things because o their ability but also due to how rare the plane was. if this is their perking scheme then they have to stick to it.

5pts seems cool.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2001, 03:03:00 PM »
unperk it or make it worth 4 it is rarely used and not worth the 40 perkies now.
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Offline Seeker

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2001, 03:21:00 PM »
I agree it's much too expensive.
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2001, 03:29:00 PM »
It should stay perked, but at a lower price, perhaps 10-20 points. I honestly dont want to see many of these planes every day, it would be very unrealistic for a WW2 oriented or whatever you wanna call it sim.
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Offline pugg666

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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2001, 05:58:00 PM »
40 pts. is pretty expensive for it's intended purpose, high alt buff interception.
how many people want to risk 40 pts. with the current buff guns, a lot of people just ignore buffs with the unperked planes as it is. and at typical MA fighting alts (below 15-10K) it's not a very special plane, sure it has a decent deck speed with wep(about 360 or so), but my pony is faster though.

i think it should be perked the same as the c-hog
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Offline Zigrat

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2001, 06:29:00 PM »
i dont think it should be unperked, but a low perkage (10 pts or so) would be in order imo
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Offline Wotan

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2001, 06:35:00 PM »
at its current cost I could fly 152s till Thanksgiving...........

if anything adjust them up...... raise temp. I got almost 30 perks vulchin in g2 oneday.

If not just get rid of perks they are mostly useless...................... ........
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Offline Fariz

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2001, 12:31:00 AM »
It shall be cheaper, 25 points seems to be ok. I have not seen A SINGLE ONE for a whole tour, it is a clear indication that perk price is wrong (or that I am blind, but I am not  :)).

I think system of gradualy decreasing perk price will work good, if HTC afraid to make it too cheap. Bring its price 10 perks lower, and watch the result during the tour. If it will be still none of them in the air, take another 10 perks and so on.

I think it shall be some criteria to achive while adjusting perk points price. For example, if every 300th sortie will be a given perk plane sortie, it is ok.

Right now only hogc defenetly costs its perks, arado shall be 10 perks cheaper, tempest shall cost 50 perks and ta around 25.

IMO.

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