Author Topic: Need BF 109 K4 (Read 2341 times)

SUP0NGO · « **on:** April 01, 2002, 05:51:31 AM »

G10 and K4 is not equal in real life
G10 and K4 is not equal in AH.

I need BF 109 K4 in AH. Is possible?

greetings

Supongo

firbal · « **Reply #1 on:** April 01, 2002, 06:31:42 AM »

We have more 109's than you know what to do with. Let's add other type of aircraft that we don't have. Such as the A-26. Or even more carrier aircraft. We could use some dive bombers, SBD, Val's and even the Stuka.

Taiaha · « **Reply #2 on:** April 01, 2002, 07:14:05 AM »

Oh yes. Definitely. Because we have so few 109s to play with now.

Kweassa · « **Reply #3 on:** April 01, 2002, 07:48:43 AM »

Like the P-40 will ever see use in MA.

Like the introduction of the Panther or Tigers will affect ground warfare in AH.

Like the SpitXIV gave a reasonable alternative to the 1942 Spitfires. (for 60 perks?)

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We may not 'need' a K-4, but then again, we don't really 'need' anything else.

We never really 'needed' to improve anything from AH Beta.

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The number of planes are totally irrelevant whether a plane should be modeled or not. All it can say is "maybe later, but just not now." And that's definately the case with the K-4. As long as history admits it, all planes are on the list of coming AH versions(I like to think so). Just a matter of priority.

Would like to see it in the future, but other things seem to be more urgent.

Morsa · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2002, 08:03:26 AM »

Nahhh firbal....:

The Me 109 was one of the world's great fighter planes, and it enjoyed the distinction of having been built in greater numbers than any other single-engine fighter in history; some 35,000 were built. It was mass-produced in Germany from 1936 through 1945, and it was built in other countries after the War, serving in Spain until 1967.

AH dont have a fully representative hangar of the migthy 109 until G-14 and K-4 be modelled.
And then we can ask for mistel and zwilling and...

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2002, 09:03:39 AM »

Compared to the AH Bf109G10 the K4 would be:

Better!

Faster at alt, maybe 12mph.
Faster on the deck.
Better balanced.
It would roll better at high speeds. (This is best thing IMHO)

Worse!

Heavier.
Less stable at very high alts, lets say over 25,000ft.

No we don't need it really, but I see no reason why it can't be in AH. Maybe after we get a P40 or P39 or F4F3, or Zero 21.

Oh yea we should get a G6 MW50 or a G14 (Basically a standardized tall tail G6 MW50) first too.

Pongo · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2002, 10:26:15 AM »

Why is it faster? Landing gear doors? why does it roll better?

fd ski · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2002, 10:40:58 AM »

sure ... at 60 perk points

Morsa · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2002, 10:59:49 AM »

Nope fd, at 120 perks, minimun.
You cant compare the K4 to this crappy Spit-XIV

Staga · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2002, 11:11:48 AM »

Pongo AFAIR model K's had a flettner-tabs in ailerons to lighten hi-speed controls. Not sure if elevators had them.

Karaya · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2002, 11:16:59 AM »

i too would like a K-4 but if memory serves correctly it had the worst roll and was the heaviest of the 109s.

the K4 had better armor and a pressurized cabin.

-ammo- · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2002, 11:17:16 AM »

I agree, lets add the P-47M or N.

Vector · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2002, 11:35:04 AM »

amen ammo!
[hijackmode]
We could even settle to P-47D-23, couldn't we?
Just for HT: D-23 would not require much additional work!

[/hijackmode]

Midnight · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2002, 11:35:52 AM »

Garbage...

Add the P-51H

Thanks

Staga · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2002, 11:57:38 AM »

Why don't you P-47 guys go polish your knobs? There's nothing for you in this thread.

Bf-109 K-4 overloaded weight 7438lbs = 3374kg
Bf-109 K-4 normal loaded weight 6834lbs = 3100kg
Bf-109 G-6 overloaded weight 7496lbs = 3400kg
Bf-109 G-6 normal loaded weight 6940lbs =3148kg