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Offline MANDOBLE

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2002, 12:20:15 PM »
Staga, the overloaded weight is for a K armed with mk103?
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2002, 12:24:10 PM »
although staga is on my ignore list I can only guess that his remark was addressed to me. In that case, staga, go to church.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2002, 03:14:31 PM »
Mandoble I don't think any 109 had a Mk103; maybe in test planes but not in fighter units.
AFAIR model K's had some internal devices re-located and it was having better balance than in G models.
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2002, 03:26:25 PM »
Supongo I'm a huge 109 fan. I fly a G-6 almost exclusively and think its a fine aircraft, but I think there are many other planes that are screaming out to be added before we get yet another late model anything--least of all another 109.

I'd much rather see an A-20G, P-40, F4F or SBD. A Kate, Val or an Oscar(or dare I say it--a Ki-84). A He-111, Ju-87 or a Pe-2--or even a Yak-3 would be cool. We just got a Mossie a while back but--a Beaufighter would be nice too. These are gaping holes in the planeset and I hope to see some of them sooner. Just MHO.

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G10  and K4 is not equal in real life
G10  and K4 is not equal in AH.

I need BF 109 K4 in AH. Is possible?

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2002, 03:36:36 PM »
Spitfire F 21 please!
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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2002, 04:16:01 PM »
Funked why did you came back?

Hey now I know: I'll head to that another board and start to pour some watermelon over you. Have a nice day and see you in there :)
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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2002, 05:36:18 PM »
If the Spit14 is crap

 The G-10 or K-4 is a maggot ridden trash.

 I don't see why anyone would assume the Spit14 "sucks".
 Does almost everything better than the P-51 or the 109G-10.
 What it doesn't do is turn like a Spit9.

 Why in the hell is the Spit14 'crap' :confused: ?
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2002, 05:40:17 PM »
K-4 is faster than Spit 14, especially down low.  Climbs as well or better than the 14.  Only drawback is one less cannon and less turning ability.  And of course, it's ugly as sin.  For a pilot who is a good shot and has learned how to get kills without turning, K-4 will be a great ride.
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2002, 05:58:16 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2002, 06:55:16 PM »
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Why is it faster? Landing gear doors? why does it roll better?


It was faster thanks to aerodynamic refinements like the main gear covers and retractable, covered tail wheel .In reality, most K-4's had their main wheel doors removed and quite a few had their tail wheels fixed in the down position.

The K-4's use of tabbed ailerons allowed it to roll better at high speeds.Don't get me wrong - even then its rate of roll wasn't spectacular, but it was certainly better than late model Gustavs like the G-14 and G-10.
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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2002, 07:00:42 PM »
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Compared to the AH Bf109G10 the K4 would be:

Worse!

Heavier.
Less stable at very high alts, lets say over 25,000ft.

 


Heavier? By how much- you have some specific figures there? Except for the tail and main gear doors, where is all this excess weight coming from?

As far as the MW 50 powered G-6 or G-14, I agree 100%.I say keep the unboosted G-6 as it is and bring on a G-14 with AM powerplant.That way we have a distinct difference between the current AH G-6 and the G-14.Besides which there are a load of great G-14 camo schemes out there ;)
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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2002, 07:10:45 PM »
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sure ... at 60 perk points


You *have* to be joking!!! Guys, the K-4 can be seen as a refined G-10.It's a little faster and handles a little better at high speed!!! If you perked it, you would have to perk the Pony too.Besides which, it carried the 30mm MK 108 - the MG 151/20 was never carried.How many AH pilots know how to handle the MK 108 efficiently?The answer is not bloody many.

You have an a/c with better low alt performance than the Spit14 but lower performance at 25-30k.Climb rate would be similar.The Spit14 had superior  handling in comparison.

If the G-10 has an ENY of 22 in AH, then IMHO the K-4 would have an ENY of 16-18.
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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2002, 07:38:50 PM »
Model it, perk it and it'll never be seen again-  sounds like a good idea to me.:D


Model the spit21 HT!! .....and the spitVIII while you're at it.  The spit1 and spit14 have just been done this version i see no reason why the spitVIII and spit21 can't be done in time for 1.10.:)
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2002, 07:51:22 PM »
Hey Thrila, how come you never displayed these poetry talents when we were in 501 together?
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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2002, 09:41:43 PM »
oh well lets Hijack the Hijackers and while you're at it model a FW190D12 and a Ta152C since we're going with a fantasy  never saw action model he162 .
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