Author Topic: Enough is Enough (Read 1134 times)

midnight Target · « **on:** April 05, 2002, 10:26:46 AM »

Bout time! Bush puts his foot down.

hblair · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2002, 12:28:55 PM »

President bush is quite the babe:

Wlfgng · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2002, 12:32:17 PM »

President Bush..... need I say more

Ripsnort · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2002, 12:33:12 PM »

As far as the left is concerned (Due to the idiocies and humiliation of 8 years of the Clinton Regime, and the love of revenge that so many have)..if Bush had America involved in this from the get-go, the left would have been saying "Stay out of it, its none of our business!", then demonstrations would have started.

Now, they say "You have not done enough! Get involved!"

So, Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. (Shrugs)

midnight Target · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2002, 12:41:36 PM »

Well speaking for my little section of the left (which includes me and.....well...... me) I understand that GW has been a little preoccupied with that other little thing called the WAR. He may be a little late getting involved, but not terribly so.

I think this (Israel / Paletinians) needs to be resolved to the satisfaction of at least the moderate Arab States before any more can be done in the War on terror. (Like squish Iraq)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2002, 12:50:56 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Well speaking for my little section of the left (which includes me and.....well...... me) I understand that GW has been a little preoccupied with that other little thing called the WAR. He may be a little late getting involved, but not terribly so.

I think this (Israel / Paletinians) needs to be resolved to the satisfaction of at least the moderate Arab States before any more can be done in the War on terror. (Like squish Iraq)

Agreed. I laughed at that "Like squish Iraq", hehe!

8ball · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:26:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
As far as the left is concerned (Due to the idiocies and humiliation of 8 years of the Clinton Regime, and the love of revenge that so many have)..if Bush had America involved in this from the get-go, the left would have been saying "Stay out of it, its none of our business!", then demonstrations would have started.

Now, they say "You have not done enough! Get involved!"

So, Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. (Shrugs)

Completely agree. No matter what Bush, or America in general for that matter, does we are always criticizied for it. For years other countries have been squeaking and moaning about America's involvement in foreign matters. Now they are mad at us because we are not doing enough to stop the escalation of hostilities. What can we do? Very little. The problems in the Middle East have their roots so deeply dug into the ground that there is almost nothing that could easily solve the problem.

easymo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:37:29 PM »

I have a sense that Bush is sincere and basically honest. (Unlike his predecessor, who I would not lend my car to, much less my country). However, my fears about the inherent dangers of nepotism are coming to the fore. The one big black mark on his daddys presidency was leaving saddam in place. I think GWB is intent on erasing that mark. I think he is looking at the middle east problem as nothing more than a nuisance that is slowing his ambitions toward Iraq. Well, It is far more than a nuisance. It is a 40 year old puzzle box that nobody has been able to crack. And it will take a lot more attention than he has paid to it.

8ball · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:45:05 PM »

The reason that Saddam was left in power following the Gulf War was simply because there was no clear successor to his place and the resulting chaos would have thrown the entire region into a power struggle. Iran would have definetely been involved, as well as other Middle East countries that had viable military's, and it would have been a rush to see who could gain control of Iraq.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:45:55 PM »

Same 8ball from Warbirds? 8bal I think it was?

AKDejaVu

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:48:31 PM »

how long till the election ?

easymo · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:49:41 PM »

"The reason that Saddam was left in power following the Gulf War was simply because there was no clear successor to his place and the resulting chaos would have thrown the entire region into a power struggle. Iran would have definetely been involved, as well as other Middle East countries that had viable military's, and it would have been a rush to see who could gain control of Iraq."

That a bit like saying we should have left hitler in power, because there was no clear successor.

Dowding · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:52:49 PM »

Interesting easymo. But isn't big business' involvement in funding American political parties more worrying? Huge multi-nationals whose only accountability is provided by err... accountants suddenly unable to add up properly at the mere mention of a cash filled brown envelope.

We have similar issues over here.

Anway, I thought the consensus in here was that the US should continue to support Israel - not make a humiliating demand of our much touted 'only democratic friend in the Middle East' to remove several hundred tanks from Palestinian towns?

Praised if you do, praised if you don't?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:55:28 PM »

Easymo:

"Problem":Iraq has invaded Kuwait.
"Solution":Remove Iraqi forces from Kuwait.

Mission accomplished. It was not Bush's business (And Im very certain the Oil-glutten states of Saudi Arabia made this very clear to him) that he was NOT there to remove anyone from power, The US was there to remove a military force from invaded land that had US special interests (oil). End of story.

Dowding · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2002, 01:55:41 PM »

8ball - that's definitely NOT the reason Saddam was left in power. The real reason is that there was no UN mandate to go to Baghdad and the coalition would have evaporated if the US et al had made moves in Saddam's direction.