Can We Do Somthing About The N1K-2 J?

[minus]

about super guns  in aH , ok AH cant model diferent load out like 3 ap  1HE so it model APHE  round, so how about  for those LASER BAZOKA  armed planes  to model  1  canon with AP second  canon wiht HE , is it much much more realistic when you hit  with 1 bulets you hit wiht AP    or !!! HE and not APHE

gust sespect that NIKI also got wonder load out


q for mister T.Wiliams you say HE round was less efective on fabrick surfaces


 ok,can you describe  the efect of 50 calibers on diferent surfaces PLZZZZ  ???

[Hangtime]

sure.. right after you explain that gawdamed 30mm tater gun you luftwhiners have.

[minus]

Hang Lw  got 30 mm stone trower  , if you like to call it exact

[Vermillion]

Here's somthing i read. Out of the 400 N1K-2J's made, about 200 of them were destory in raid's by the allies. Out of the remaining 200, 125 fell apart in the air, due to their HORRIBLE RELIABLITY.

And where did you read that?

Is that what it actually said or did you  errr ummmm ....  paraphrase  what it actually said?

I've done alot of reading on Japanese fighters, and  the Ki84 and N1K2 in particular, and while I've heard of engine reliability problems before, but I've never read of any of them falling apart in the air, let alone over 25% of the total ever made.

Please share where you found this info.

[FDutchmn]

Originally posted by JoeCrip
First, A Story:

When 1.09 first came out, i found my self in a 4 vs 4. It was me (in a 109 e-4), with a spit 1, a spit 1, and a hurr 1. We were fighting 2 bf110's and 2 spit 1's. So, here we have a balanced fight, with everyone testing out the new planes and having fun. About 3 mins into the fight, and no one had died. I though to myself, Wow! , this is a fun fight. Well, i spoke too soon. Here we are, me and my 3 countrymen in early war planes, when all of a sudden a N1K-2J comes along. Kills me and my 3 country men.

Ok, there's the story. This plane is just too unbalancing in a fight.

Well that's too bad... such is the Main Arena... My take is that it didn't have to be the N1K2-J to have done that but could have been done by almost anything.  Singling out the N1K2-J is because of your prejudice

Originally posted by JoeCrip
My 2 Idea's

1) Lower to eny of the n1k-2 to about 5 eny, and give it a small perk value like the f4u-1c. Why was the 1c perked? wasnt it beacuase of the good guns, good speed. Well, the niki has good guns and good speed.

2) Remove the N1k-2j, and replace it with the N1k-1, which was a lot more common.

N1K-2J's were very uncommon. Here's somthing i read. Out of the 400 N1K-2J's made, about 200 of them were destory in raid's by the allies. Out of the remaining 200, 125 fell apart in the air, due to their HORRIBLE RELIABLITY.

Comments?

N... O...  NO! Bring the Ki-43, Ki-44, Ki-84, Ki-100 to ACES HIGH!

[Mathman]

Please don't limit the N1K2's in the MA.  If you do, I will lose a valuable source of kills with which I pad my stats.

-math

[Yeager]

Relax fellas, your not really flying planes and shooting other planes down.  Your playing a game on a computer.

[akak]

Originally posted by JoeCrip
Well, i also hoped you had gotten this out of the story:

Here we all are testing and having fun with the new planes. In this case they were BOB planes, but i am sure the same thing would have happened if the new planes were 1944 planes, or 1945 planes. Anyway, here we were testing the new planes, everyone having fun, seeing how these planes preform, ect, ect. When some N1k-2j dweeb who could give 2 F**k's about the new planes dives in, and ends the fight. What i am trying to say, besides that this plane dominates a fight is, Niki dweebs are always gonna be niki dweebs. They will always fly the niki beacuse they know that they can control the fight.

I would Love for 1 day have the Niki, La7, and Spit disabled. It would be funny seeing a niki dweeb in a 190a8...i could just imagine it...

A Whine has been recorded.

It cracks me up when instead of using sound tactics and brains, some cry to eliminate planes because they can't beat 'em.  The 3 planes you listed are some of the easiest planes to shoot down.



Ack-Ack
479th FG - Riddle's Raiders

[Spatula]

Yawn!

Leave the N1k2, it's fine as it is! It was fine before HTC neutered it and is certainly not uber or unbalancing.

[MANDOBLE]

JoeCrip, do you find any appreciable difference between N1K2, F6F, Yak9U or Spits? All of them are in the same bag for me, only real difference is the colour and the number of guns and that one of them doesnt need wep at all, but handling and E keeping is almost the same for all of them. Personally, I find the N1K2 the weakest of the four.

[MadBirdCZ]

Originally posted by MANDOBLE
JoeCrip, do you find any appreciable difference between N1K2, F6F, Yak9U or Spits? All of them are in the same bag for me, only real difference is the colour and the number of guns and that one of them doesnt need wep at all, but handling and E keeping is almost the same for all of them. Personally, I find the N1K2 the weakest of the four.

I would disagree on this one in case of the Yak-9U. True it doesnt have WEP but it has so many other disadvantages over the rest of the planes on your list that its  never going to be a newbie's or furball dweeb's prime ride. Yak just lacks ammo and most dweebs just use the spray and pray tactics which they cant use very much while in Yak with its single 20mm/120 rpg loadout... I admit that Yak-9U is a killer! It is... a big one. But yu have to know a bit how to use it. I dont think N1K is dominating the arena nor it is unbalancing it. No not at all. If you know how to fight them they are ded and if you dont have the time to fight them you can always outrun them Maybe if oneday N1K1 is introduced then N1K2 could get symbolicaly berked by 1 or 2 pps but I dont think its necessary right now or in close future...

Just my $0.02

[MANDOBLE]

MadBirdCZ, agree with u about the ammo, but Yak9U is by far the most uber of the four, probably the most uber of the entire unperked planeset. Pick up one and start playing with anything for several minutes (even a La7), when the enemy WEP time is used, outrun, outclimb, outdive, outaccelerate and outturn it, quite an enormous advantage over the four cannons of the n1k2.

[MadBirdCZ]

Mandoble: I flew N1K once so cant tell much on this one, I flew La7 few times and the plane is hell of a speeder down there packing quite decent punch and pretty damage resistant too, when Im forced to operate from CV I choose F6F... Maybe because it looks more like an airplane than the 'cut in half' X-Wing F4U and I must say that the .50s on F6F are pretty deadly (as all .50s in AH), I flew Spitfires a lot when I came in AH and I was going through my newbie/dweeb development process. Then I met a guy called VRaptor who flew Yak and he got huge numbers of kills in it. So I said to myself - what the hell is this Yak all about? It has just 1 canon, limited ammo, short legs and that guy is able tokill anything in it and make it home refuel and kill everything again... So I started to fly Yak... I died... I died a lot... But after some time of winging with that guy and later with Fariz I really started to like the Yak so trust me I know that Yak is pain for other airplanes (hello there minus) But it has more negative aspects than you actually think. Any slightest damage (1 or 2 pings from almost any weapon) regulary tend to kill its radiator. With radiator leak it takes about 10 seconds!! for the engine to overheat and jam... So this is a price for 24/7 wep... It has low ammo and small fueltanks so its quite shortlegged it cant hang in air for ages like p51s or p38s do...

Yak-9 is deadly if its in good hands but this applyes to any airplane... I still think its more about the pilot...

[MANDOBLE]

Originally posted by MadBirdCZ
Any slightest damage (1 or 2 pings from almost any weapon) regulary tend to kill its radiator. With radiator leak it takes about 10 seconds!! for the engine to overheat and jam

Like any 190, and perhaps any single engined plane. Well, the fact is that I dont remember any N1k2 or La7 smoking gray ...

The times I few Yak9U I found it as being a more forgiving plane than any spit (they also run quickly out of wep), and the single cannon, while not having a big punch is very accurate, more than the one in 109s.

[laz]

Your all lucky I am lazy and don't feel like typing......