Author Topic: Can We Do Somthing About The N1K-2 J? (Read 1481 times)

batdog · « **Reply #75 on:** April 09, 2002, 06:32:38 AM »

Niki was a great ho in ww2. SHe was easy..she was sleazy and man could she please ya. Yea yea yea!

xBAT

Sikboy · « **Reply #76 on:** April 09, 2002, 08:11:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I would be MORE THAN SATISFIED if torque was modeled

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS FACTS, NOT IDEAS
don't bother reading, instead just comence in whining:

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Originally posted by hitech

Im alway looking at ways to make inprovements, but some numbers I have no doubt about, torque is one of them.

Torque is one of the easy things to caculate, it realy is as simple as Torque = HP/(prop rmp) this would give you an absolute max torque to be applied to the airframe. The torque applied to the air frame would be slightly less do to the gear box friction. We ignor the gear box effects when caculating torque on the plane, so if you wish real torque we could acctuly lower it by 5 - 8 %.

Just a question to you [*****], what effect does increased torque have on an airplane ?
If you wish to discuse the technical aspects of AH I just wan't to make sure we have a clear understanding of terms.

Now that you've been more than satisfied, would you like a smoke?

Mathman · « **Reply #77 on:** April 09, 2002, 08:38:59 AM »

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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
So Mathman uses the blue nikki to kill green ones ...

You know, I never thought about it, but yeah I guess I do. Particularly since the N1K2 is really no better than the F6F and they die even faster.

JoeCrip · « **Reply #78 on:** April 09, 2002, 01:22:20 PM »

Well, there are a few important things that ARE NOT modeled on the AH N1k-2J.

1) The Unique Flap System
2) The Highly Unreliable Gear
3) The Unreliable Engine

If these things were modeled, not only would the N1k-2j be more realistic, but I think the numbers would decrease.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #79 on:** April 09, 2002, 01:35:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
From tour 26:

AkDejaVu has 0 kills of N1K2 and 0 deaths by N1K2

I dont think anyone with such extensive experience with the aircraft in question should be posting other peoples numbers.

I was 4:0 against N1K2s in Tour26. I got all my kills of them with an F6F-5. You see, you were looking for my stats with the wrong in-game ID. I don't believe I was doing the same thing with JoeCrip.

Once again... the story is either embelished or the pilot is mistaken as to who/what plane shot him down.

AKDejaVu

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #80 on:** April 09, 2002, 01:43:43 PM »

AKDejaVu
Check my stats me (109e-4) vs (nik2).

PS (check gameID KoolAid)

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #81 on:** April 09, 2002, 01:50:30 PM »

Actually... with a little digging... the pilot may have been mistaken about what he was flying.

JoeCrip died to an N1K2 while flying a Bf109F-4 in tour 27. I do believe this has to be at least 20 days after the release of 1.09 too.

What he didn't mention was that he was 17:3 against N1K2s in the previous tours with his only deaths to them coming in a Dora, a P-38 and an M3.

Getting tired of people pulling one shining example of an event in the MA and treating it like the norm. Then... if they feel the story didn't quite have enough umph... adding a tad bit.

And even if its an honest mistake (most likely is.. E4 vs F4) My question to the author of the post... how many early war A6M5bs did you kill with that dora of yours last tour? How is that any different?

AKDejaVu

Tac · « **Reply #82 on:** April 09, 2002, 01:53:40 PM »

"N1K is a crutch for poor flying?"

Yes.

"Does that mean if I strap on an N1K I'll get fur on my teeth and be able to kill anyone in the arena?"

Not anyone, but very likely a lot of them with minimal effort. N1k is a point and shoot plane, not very different from those I see in Fighter Ace and MSCFS games on "easy" flight settings.

This plane shows no control problems unless you get it to below 30 mph. Can dive to very high speeds (near 500mph) and still be able to pull 5+ g's without shedding wings and still retain amazingly decent control of it beyond 420mph. AH does not seem to model its automatic butterfly flaps either (which would add a lot of drag, albeit increasing its turn rate a bit at lower speeds) either. Odd thing for a plane Saburo Sakai described as having "treacherous" flight characteristics aint it?

IMO, this plane as it is in AH is a crutch for the clueless and a viagra prescription for those with some skills. The little demon on my right shoulder says its so as a marketing scheme to keep all the arcade sim flyers in the game.. and the other little demon on my left shoulder is too busy hacking their chutes to pieces with his rusty nail clipper. *G*

Kieran · « **Reply #83 on:** April 09, 2002, 02:10:09 PM »

I'm just glad we have enough manly, barrel-chested he-men to make up for those silly people that want to fly every plane in the set...

Vruth · « **Reply #84 on:** April 09, 2002, 02:13:16 PM »

TAC, another point to consider is how light the NIK really is. This bird has an even power-to-weight ratio (which is a good thing) and it's acceleration and climb ability with high E is amazing because of it's light weight. It doesn't climb like the G10 or La-5/7, but it can zoom like a UFO.

This plane is the Porsche of cars - that being said any idiot can look good in a porsche. A race car driver in a porsche is lethal and that is proven by GTR and other expert NIK drivers.

DejaVu - it's not the stats that makes the NIK such an annoying bird, it's the fact that it should be perked. It's an amazing fighting machine, more so than the P-51D, Spit IX, or the Dora.

batdog · « **Reply #85 on:** April 09, 2002, 02:24:14 PM »

I will dive through hoards of red cons to get at a Niki. Killing one gives me a warm fuzzy feeling all over...then I change my pants

xBAT

Sikboy · « **Reply #86 on:** April 09, 2002, 02:31:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Vruth

This plane is the Porsche of cars

No, Porshe is the Porshe of cars.

-Sikboy

Widewing · « **Reply #87 on:** April 09, 2002, 02:42:46 PM »

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Originally posted by laz
And if this n1k dives on you from average n1k alt (about 30k) , what do you do then widewing? =)

What I always do: Dodge the initial attack, extend on course exactly opposite of con. Should he climb for reposition, I reserve option of heading for ground level where the hard deck restricts his freedom of maneuver. The attacker will either head off for an easier target, or he will screw up, kill his E and pay for his folly.

Unless I make a mistake, high nikis are no problem that can't be handled.

My regards,

Widewing

Tac · « **Reply #88 on:** April 09, 2002, 03:21:53 PM »

highest n1k ive seen was at 22k .. and it was the ONLY person to take it that high (HISPD)

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #89 on:** April 09, 2002, 04:37:15 PM »

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DejaVu - it's not the stats that makes the NIK such an annoying bird, it's the fact that it should be perked. It's an amazing fighting machine, more so than the P-51D, Spit IX, or the Dora.

LOL! I've never had a N1K2 escape before. Once they are commited they are in. Can't say the same about the P-51, la-7, 190s, P-47s or P-38s.

What is it that the N1K2 does best of all planes in the MA? I know why its popular... decent turning... decent climb... decent speed... decent guns. It is not #1, #2 or even #3 in any of those categories. Sure someone's going to site e-retention... but that will be a "feel" kinda thing with zero film supporting their claims. It accels in zero of the tangibles... much like the Spitfire Mk IX.

The N1K2 is a good plane... its nothing special.

AKDejaVu