Can We Do Somthing About The N1K-2 J?

[SKurj]

If nik is such an unbalancing plane, why don't i see more fo them?

Granted we have a few spit models, but i see waaaay more of them than niks.
See more 51's than niks as well

I'd like to see more of them though, as that would help earn me 262's...


SKurj

[Kieran]

Ok, it's official, Man is nuts. I've no idea how much time you've spent in any Yak, but it isn't the uber plane you make it out to be. It's good, but not that good.

Compared to your most hated enemy (Spits of any kind):

It can't turn with any except the XIV.

It is faster than all but the XIV at low level.

Its guns don't compare.

Acceleration is roughly equal.

Compared to the other arena planes:

It will never challenge the 1C, Tempest, American anything or any La for killing power (as in, multi-kill sorties).

So, what do you have? A plane that holds full power (by virtue of having no WEP) all the time, is light, can turn somewhat, and accelerates very well. That's it.

[Tronspir]

Joe, just view the N1K as a crutch for those who cannot walk on two legs, it makes up for the lack of skill.  Once you start viewing the N1K drivers as such, you will begin to reconcile your differences in your abilities, and theirs.

[Kieran]

Guess I better grab a crutch and start flying.

[MANDOBLE]

Kieran, with Yak9u what I have is a plane that eats N1K2, F6F, Spits and La7s for breakfast. It will be able to eat only a few each time, ok. What you call "killing power" is secondary when you have a plane able to outfly (not outrun only) anything. And I'm not comparing it with already perked planes.

[MadBirdCZ]

With Yak-9U a single ammo load (120 + 240) is enough for 4-5 fighters or 2 buffs

Now who said Yak-9U is not miltikill sortie capable?

[Kieran]

I just can't agree with that. Yak is good, but eat the others alive? No way.

The funny thing is how our arguments have reversed. I think the Yak can get away from things it can't outturn and outturn those it can't outrun (for the most part) but it is not that scary. You say it can control the fight with its speed and acceleration. Kinda like a, hmm...

I happen to think most of our planes have a particular niche, though some have more flexibility than others. They also have distinct weakness, though some more than others. Very few are worthy of perking for the reason of being overpowering.

[Sikboy]

If the Yak is so much better, why isn't this thread about adjusting it's ENY/Perk values?
-Sikboy

[FDutchmn]

Originally posted by JoeCrip
N1K-2J's were very uncommon. Here's somthing i read. Out of the 400 N1K-2J's made, about 200 of them were destory in raid's by the allies. Out of the remaining 200, 125 fell apart in the air, due to their HORRIBLE RELIABLITY.

Comments?

JoeCrip, like Vermillion, I too am wondering where you read this.  Please share your source.

[Widewing]

What can we do about the N1K2? Well, I kill them at every opportunity. There's nothing amazing about them. Like any other type, it's only as good as its pilot. Understanding your aircraft's strengths and weaknesses determines haow you deal with them. If I'm flying a Spit or Zeke, I'll simply out-turn them. If I'm in a Typhoon or La-7, I use speed and surprise. If you surrender your advantage, well, then you have to pay the piper. However, in general terms, I don't find them especially troublesome, usually no trouble at all.

My regards,

Widewing

[laz]

And if this n1k dives on you from average n1k alt (about 30k) , what do you do then widewing? =)

[MANDOBLE]

laz, it is about n1k2, not about P51/P38, average alt is 1k.

[Kieran]

Laz, what do you do about anything that dives on you from an alt advantage? Seems like it is all pretty much the same result if the guy knows what he is doing.

Agreed with Mandoble, where do you see all those 30K Nikkis? Above 20K it's pretty much a turd...

[Urchin]

I don't know if I agree that the N1K2, Spit, and La7 are amoung the easiest kills in AH for me.  Flown properly, they are amoung the hardest planes to kill- period.  This is from my perspective in a 109 or 190 though.  The N1K2 will outturn anything but a 109E4 (and it can turn with that), it will outaccelerate anything but the D9 and G10 (about on par with those), it has great firepower, climbs and dives well, and it is as just about as fast as the LW planes except the 109G10 and the 190D9.  

Spit9 is in the same book as the N1K2, but it isnt as fast.

La7 is the true D9 and G10 killer.  It simply does everything better, literally.  The earlier 109s can outturn it though.

The 'trick' to killing them is to simply come in with an advantage.  Oh, and to know your plane better than he knows his.

A great pilot in a 109G10 will kick an average pilots ass, even if he is in an La7.  This is because the G10 pilot can get more out of his plane than the La7 pilot can, even though the La7 is capable out outperforming the 109G-10.  If an average pilot in a 109G-10 meets a great pilot in an La7, he can kiss his bellybutton goodbye.

[WhiteHawk]

I think the perk system needs to be a bit more radical.  
   Big rewards for early war planes.
       Small rewards, and increased costs for late war planes
  This is the case now, just not radical enuf to bring the whole
planeset into play.
   One way is to award no perks to late war planes unless
they land the kills.
  (i fly mostly 109g-10 and p47d-30, but would really enjoy
early model dogfites, but lets face it, unless your flying over
your own airbase or haev big numbers, you cant really
travel into indian country and expect to return alive with a
slow aircraft, regardless of how numble it is)