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Offline zipity

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Bring back the element of surprise...
« on: April 17, 2002, 11:24:44 PM »
First off, I think HTC is doing a great job.  Adding new features, keeping the old timers challenged and the newbes signing up.  BUT, IMHO, the flashing fields combined with the ever present bar dar has completely removed any possibility of sneak attack.  NOE missions used to be fun and rewarding but now what's the point of flying under 100ft if you still show up on bar dar and even if you didn't the enemy field would start flashing 12 miles out giving the enemy plenty of time to ditch/bail from their planes, then reup from the field being attacked.  I could possibly understand starting the flashing business after the first shots rang out but giving the other team a 12 mile jump start defeats any notion of surprise.  If the other team doesn't care enough to cap their territory, they deserve to loose it, that is IMHO.

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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2002, 12:53:24 AM »
Fully agreed with you.

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2002, 02:37:54 AM »
They should eliminate bar dar under 1000 feet and keep the field flashing.

Or keep bar dar and kill the field flashing.

One off them is a try to give account of "airguards" against NOE attackers, but both together are way way to excatly.

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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2002, 07:53:48 AM »
fly at or below 500ft agl and there is no bardar.

We ran a sneak attack on A52 (ndisles) not long ago.  110g2's and a goon.  We stayed under 500ft for the whole attack.  They finally responded to the flashing as the goon came in (I think someone was in the tower and shouted GOON so they came pouring out).

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2002, 08:18:41 AM »
SectorCounterAlt was 0 last time I looked. Doesn't this mean the only way not to be counted is flying below 0 AGL?

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2002, 08:41:23 AM »
ccvi, how could you look? Anyway it is at 500 and has been for quite some time.

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2002, 10:35:50 AM »
If you try and check arena settings online without CM privilages (CM's only have privilages in the CT and SA arena) all you see is Defaults/0.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2002, 12:12:24 PM »
How about setting it so the field starts flashing only:

1) If the attacking force is visible on Radar
2) They are below dar but within visual range

Obviously, if you can see the enemy sweeping in, there's no reason not to start the air raid siren.

#2 would still allow the element of surprise for the NOE raiders, but not give the unrealistic "nothing happening here" appearance to fields currently being shot to blazes by planes under dar.

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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2002, 01:10:57 PM »
Maybe set the air raid range a bit shorter (3 miles?) from dusk to dawn, and in The Rain Storm, to simulate reduced visibility.  It would add a positive aspect to night.

Also, add a "Radio Hut" to each field which, when destroyed, would disable the flashing and audio warnings.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2002, 01:16:10 PM by popeye »
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2002, 02:28:36 PM »
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If you try and check arena settings online without CM privilages (CM's only have privilages in the CT and SA arena) all you see is Defaults/0.


Sorry hitech, I didn't know that.

Documentation (http://www.hitechcreations.com/arnasett.html) doesn't say that displayed values are bogus.

The frontend should either NOT DISPLAY the whole menu (disable button) as it is usless, if it does not even show the data, or changed to DISPLAY CORRECT VALUES.

The way it is it is a bug.

Is there a way to look up settings in the MA (.show or something)?

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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2002, 02:38:57 PM »
CCVI, thought the button was hidden , it will be changed for the next patch .

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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2002, 02:46:37 PM »
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Originally posted by popeye


Also, add a "Radio Hut" to each field which, when destroyed, would disable the flashing and audio warnings.
 


I like this.

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2002, 03:06:15 PM »
tnx hitech.

Is there a way to look up arena settings? If not, why not?

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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2002, 03:38:21 PM »
500 feet my bumb,

why can we see gvs on bar dar then hmmm?

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2002, 03:55:42 PM »
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Originally posted by ccvi
tnx hitech.

Is there a way to look up arena settings? If not, why not?


Go online click on the set-up button...select the arena settings button. Change the country to something, anything then change it back to All...settings will magicaly appear :D