Author Topic: And the Winner is? F4U-1C  (Read 3532 times)

Offline Minotaur

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And the Winner is? F4U-1C
« on: March 25, 2000, 10:03:00 PM »
The results are in for the latest AH beauty contest.  I guess the ugliest wins!    

The Winner:
2.00 --> F4U-1C - 10517 / 5254

1st Runner Up:
1.19 --> 109G-6 - 1215 / 1018

2nd Runner Ups:
1.16 --> 109G-10 - 3473 / 3006
1.16 --> 190A-8 - 2145 / 1845

3rd Runner Up:
1.08 --> P-51D - 5618 / 5250

Noteworthy:
1.04 --> Spit IX - 11105 / 10697
1.01 --> N1K2 - 4639 / 4588
1.01 --> C.205 - 2582 / 2568

Just So-So:
.96 ---> P-38L - 6811 / 7098
.94 ---> 109G-2 - 573 / 608

Should stay home:
.85 ---> Spit V - 6583 / 7754
.84 ---> LA5 - 878 / 1043

Cross dressers with hairy legs:
.69 ---> 109F-4 - 359 / 523
.63 ---> F4U-1D - 438 / 698

Very nice looking just over weight:
.66 ---> B26 - 2028 / 3076
.53 ---> B-17G - 1105 / 2084

The winner by losing:
.11 ---> C-47 - 216 / 1824

In attendence:
1.00 --> All - 60838 / 60838

For the F4U-1C vulchers:
Kill/Die Ratio --> Plane - (Number of kills) / (Number of deaths)

If you want to beat a dead horse some more look here.

For fighters, notice that the F4U-1C has the best K/D and the F4U-1D has the worst.
  • F4U-1C --> 2.00 - WTG Stud!
  • F4U-1D ---> .63 - Pathetic Twit!
Gitty Up!    

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Offline Kieren

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2000, 10:10:00 PM »
F4U-1C: the four fingers of God.

 

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2000, 11:12:00 PM »
Note also the high position of the fw190A-8. This pig is one of the best killers of the arena...so I only can imagine the whining when Fw190A-5 comes here!!!

Fw190A-5 JG-2 gruppen will rock!!!!

 

Also I simply cant understand how 109G-6 has better scorerates that G-10. IMHO G-6 turns as G-10 but runs as a F-4...

can anyone explain it to me?



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Offline Rude

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2000, 11:52:00 PM »
All 190's are Pony Food  

     

Rude Out!

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Offline Toad

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2000, 11:53:00 PM »
Well, all the wailing and whining and gnashing of teeth and garment rending over the F4U-1C guns touched a tender spot deep in my heart.  

So, lately I've been flying the D Hog just to see the difference for myself. I really don't have a large enough sample to be _statistically_ valid but the early trend shows the K/D going up nicely. So, look for me in the Hog with the yellow cowling.  

It'll sure be interesting to see how YOU guys handle the "Wah! Wah! Wah! FW guns are TOO STRONG Wah! Wah! Wah!" comments.

 

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Offline MiG Eater

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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2000, 12:50:00 AM »
And the winner will be in the near future:

My prediction - the Typhoon

Move over Corsair, there's another "ugly" bird that will soon be vying for the spot of Tog Dog.    

MiG

note: I personally don't find the Corsair ugly =)

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Offline danish

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2000, 03:20:00 AM »
"-touched a tender spot deep in my heart."

Something profoundly wrong with that sentence.

danish


 

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2000, 03:39:00 AM »
That the G6 makes its mark calls for some guessing.
One could imagine dedicated LW rotten or schwarms doing it SL style: survival foremost, killing secondary.Any dedicated G6 experten out there?

For sure the plane has no advantages when getting low and dirty in a multi bogie enviroment.Same goes for the A8 allthough it has guns to kill and speed to escape - if you havnt blown it.

Still baffels me though.

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2000, 04:23:00 AM »
The resident G6 expert is Aper.  He has 538 Kills in the G6 against only 136 losses.  Everyone else combines for 696 kills vs 891 losses.  These statistics are more than slightly skewed.

I've flown quite a bit with aper... enough to know that he'll go in and mix it up with any number of aircraft.  His kills are based on hardcore combat not hit and run tactics.

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2000, 05:53:00 AM »
Ok its a one man show then.That I can understand - sort of.
WTG Aper  ;=)

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Offline Minotaur

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2000, 08:07:00 AM »
I thought some of you might find this interesting.

Total 109 Kills ---> 5620
Total 109 Deaths --> 5155
109 K/D Ratio -----> 1.09


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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2000, 08:36:00 AM »
Historically speaking, you've got to give credit to the 109 and the Luftwaffe pilots who flew them.  

"quote from a recent article, One Oh Nine "

"To that list must inevitably be added the Messerschmitt Me-109. Perhaps it was not the best performer of the war, and even its pilots would admit that it was not the safest or most comfortable plane to fly. But its combat record, from beginning to end, was monumental, and it was the weapon of choice for the greatest fighter pilots in history. Comparing the Me-109G with the Brewster B-239 that he had flown previously, Finnish ace of aces Eino Ilmari Juutilainen said that "while the Brewster was a gentleman's airplane, the Messerschmitt was a killing machine."

That impression was echoed by Eric Brown, a Royal Navy pilot who test-flew an Me-109G in 1944: "The Bf-109 always brought to my mind the adjective 'sinister.' It has been suggested that it evinced the characteristics of the nation that conceived it, and to me it always looked lethal from any angle, on the ground or in the air; once I had climbed into its claustrophobic cockpit, it felt lethal!"

Anyone who flew the Me-109, and anyone who faced it in battle, would be inclined to agree. The P-47 inspired awe. The Zero earned loyalty. The Spitfire gained devotion. The Me-109 commanded respect."

The full article may be found at:
 http://www.historynet.com/AviationHistory/articles/1999/0599_text.htm

I think cyber pilots like Aper and Hristo support the historical truths of the 109, even within the domain of AH.  


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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2000, 09:00:00 AM »
 Aper is overmodeled and should be removed from the arena!

-Westy


(just kidding    He is an awesome pilot and I've only ever shot him down in his 109 when he was already distracted)

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2000, 09:13:00 AM »
gotta say that as a HOG driver the 109 is the plane i fear most .. and now we have swarms of them coming from Knitland flying the JG2 colors .. with time this machine will rack up some awesome stats me guesses.

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Offline Minotaur

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2000, 11:00:00 PM »
Here we go...

If you are guessing that I am prepared to ram this all the way down the breach, you guessed right.  

Item 1: For those of you who say that I would rather fly the 1D, but only take the 1C when it gets "Tough".  Well I guess it really gets tough for you most of the time.

In fact as of 3/26/00 Tour2 the ratio of how many times it got tougher was 2401% (10517 / 438) higher than when it wasn't tough.  That is the percentage of kills the 1C has over the 1D. It is pretty tough, eh?

Item 2: With an K/D ratio maintaining at 2.00 the 1C is the "Lofty King" above all others.  

Laughably the K/D ratio of its "Anemic Hanger Ridden Sister" that is "So Called" taken out for "All the but the Hardest Jobs" has fallen from .66 to .63.  Pathetic isn't it?

In fact those squires that chase the "Reigning King of the Arena" have also fallen.  The 109G-6, 1.26 down to 1.19.  The 190A-8, 1.20 down to 1.16.  The 109G-10 is up, (yikes watch out 1C a climber) 1.15 to 1.16.  Lastly, the P-51D down also, 1.10 to 1.08.  These changes have occured in 5 days, better hope for a Tour3 reset.

Item 3: There is a certain player in the arena goes by the callsign "Mino".  Lets be honest, Mino sucks.  Considering Tour1, Mino had a total K/D ratio of .89 (298 / 333).  In every plane Mino flew, Mino sucked.  Well almost all.  Guess which one?  I'll tell you anyway, the F4U-1C.  

In this plane Mino had a K/D of 1.87 (56 / 30).  So Mino was a stud in this plane and no other.  I wonder if Mino thought he really was a stud?  

BTW this plane gave Mino a 209% better chance of being successful and Mino is not really a good vulcher either.  I'll tell you later how I know this.

Don't ask Mino why he bangs his head in frustration flying only as a target drone flying the P-38L in Tour2.  Mino could be more successful flying the 1C.

Item 4: I want to hear from the crowd with closed eyes and closed minds that say "The F4U-1C is not Uber".  These players being the ones calling those with open minds and open eyes "Whiners".  Them saying that the only success of the 1C is the result of vulching poor unsuspecting Spitfires.

Cacah Boloney Ptui Phrmff...   It just ain't so!    

Conclusion:  Lets hear it, post it anywhere, any thread.  Just say "The F4U-1C is an UberPlane".  It won't hurt much....  

-Or-

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