UH HUH, Yeah Right....

[weazel]

The land of fruits and nuts.....

[Jack55]

Israel should follow the Kuwati an Jordanian example when it comes to dealing with the "Palistinians".  Want to see modern "nazi" conduct?  Try to build a Christian church in any Arab country.  See how close you can build it to Mecca.

[Staga]

Would be nice to see some info backing up that claim.

[Staga]

I did look some info about Saudi-Arabia from CIA's World Factbook:
Why would you like to built a church to a country where 100% of inhabitants are muslims?

(actually another source says there's 0,8% Christians ~ 180000ppl out from 22800000; Don't know if CIA is a reliable source....)

[~Caligula~]

So the right of 180000 people to worship the way they want has to be ignored,because they live in a country where they are minority?
And before You bring up the rights of palestinians in Israel in comparison.I`m yet to hear news of christians blowing up civilians in Saudi-Arabia.

[Staga]

First I'd like to know if we should trust CIA or that another source I already forgot...
btw do you think Israel is occupying areas which belong to another countries?

[mrsid2]

OTOH we're yet to see saudi-arabians occupying the land of the christians and building new settlements there.

What if the christians did build a church there but the saudis would demolish it down with bulldozers? That would cause a conflict 100% certain if the christians were fundamentalists.

[~Caligula~]

btw do you think Israel is occupying areas which belong to another countries?

The West Bank?
It was part of Jordan,not Palestine since the country of Palestine never existed.King Hussein of Jordan declared in 1988 that he has no claims for the West Bank anymore.So who`s country is it than?
Go take a look at Hortlund`s history lesson,and see who`s occupying what land.

[Staga]

Well I really don't care much about Hortlund's thoughts...

Maybe we should check what CIA thinks about that issue. I wonder if U.S government's opinion is same

[Staga]

btw Caliguka:
Your location looks like it says "California" but this sentence says you're from Israel.
"But I will have my own country to raise my childeren in peace.
And what You see on CNN is how that country has to be defended from people who want to destroy it."

So are you Israeli citizen in U.S or are you only planning to move to there?
Anyway now I understand why your opinions are like they are  

[Jack55]

Originally posted by Staga
Would be nice to see some info backing up that claim.

After a short Google search:

http://www.persecution.org/humanrights/egypt.html

http://www.pastornet.net.au/jmm/aame/aame0140.htm

There are many more, and I only looked at Egypt, which is only 85% Muslim.

[mrsid2]

It has been clear to me for ages that ALL religious fundamentalism sucks and it sucks hard. It doesn't matter if its muslim, christian, jew or anyone..

Fundamentalism is IMO a state of insanity. With fundamentalism people set aside rational thinking, human rights and what's left of general civilisation. A fundamentalist kills for his religion. He might kill for a thing that he THINKS offends his beliefs even if they didn't have any real world backing.

Shortly put, these people are crazy.

I will never ever travel to a fundamentalist lead country freewillingly. It's like putting your head to a lions cage with tourism in mind.

[Curval]

Originally posted by mrsid2
OTOH we're yet to see saudi-arabians occupying the land of the christians and building new settlements there.

You would be shocked at the number of mosques that have been built in the UK and North America...some have been built by Saudis, quite a few with Saudi money.  Where there are mosques there are Musilm "settlements".

I think that there is something like 1,500 mosques around Birmingham, England alone.

Not that there is anything wrong with that...as long as they teach "true Islam" and not the fundementalist nonesense that seems to be the norm in the Mid-East right now.

[mrsid2]

Curval the day you see a muslim main battle tank cruising the streets there, we can talk about occupation.. Lol.

[Curval]

Originally posted by mrsid2
Curval the day you see a muslim main battle tank cruising the streets there, we can talk about occupation.. Lol.

You make a point about Saudis never occupying Christian land.

I pointed out that you are wrong - occupation doesn't HAVE to be forceful.

There are no Israeli or US/British tanks cruising the streets of Saudi cities, so again...I fail to see your point.

As I pointed out "There is nothing wrong" with having Mosques in Christian countries....the west pride's itself in being tolerant of other faiths in their countries.   Not so in the Mid-East.