Best Fighters

[midnight Target]

Just watched a show on Discovery-Wings (Love my new cable) about fighters. The show chose the best fighter plane of each era.

1911 - 1925 was the Fokker VII
1926 - 1942 was the Spitfire (This was backed up by Gunther Rall in an interview)
1943-1946 Mustang
1950-1961 F-86 Sabre
1962-1971 F4-Phantom II
1972-Present (Show was probably made in the early 1990's) F-15 Eagle (Although the vote was very close with F-16)

[Soviet]

for 1943-1946 i'd vote the La-7 as the best 2 p-51s dived on a RUssian Aces La-7 and the La-7 pilot turned the fight around and killed both of the P-51 pilots.  It made the Germans crap their pants too when seeing it at low alt.

[john9001]

perk da lala7

[Wutz]

Me 262 is best from 43-46. And Günter Rall was treatend att gunpoint. The Spit 1 vs Me 109 E-4 (Draw)
                The Spit 5 vs Me 109 F-4 (F4 wins)
                 The Spit 9 vs Me 109 G-6 (Draw)

And before u say it was only prop figthers from 43-46.
109-G14, Fw190D9 and D12, and in 45 Ta-152 and Do 335. I laughf at the La7 (Maximus Dwebius prematurius cry babyus)
And (Spittius Dwebius Newbeeius Afraidius too figthus on equalius termius) and N(ewbee)1K(oward)2.

Ok the Pony drivers have my respect *S*

In my humble oppinion. No wait I mean that.... so F*** all

LOL :-)

[Pongo]

Some room for debate on some of those..
but no room for debate on the Spit ix vs 109G6 one....
The G6 is in real trouble against the Spit we have..much less its contemporary spits Lf and HF models.

[F4UDOA]

Don't you know the P-51 won the war by itself.

[Puck]

Originally posted by Wutz
(Spittius Dwebius Newbeeius Afraidius too figthus on equalius termius)
In my humble oppinion. No wait I mean that.... so F*** all

LOL :-)

If you're silly (or is that stupid) enough to fight on equal terms...well...nevermind...

[fdiron]

Why is the F86 considered superior to the Mig15?  The Mig15 was superior to the F86 in performance.

[BenDover]

Originally posted by Soviet
for 1943-1946 i'd vote the La-7 as the best 2 p-51s dived on a RUssian Aces La-7 and the La-7 pilot turned the fight around and killed both of the P-51 pilots.  It made the Germans crap their pants too when seeing it at low alt.

hang on, why did two p51s dive on an La7, or was this another case of america way of fighting -"shoot first, ask questions later"?
Gulf War

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by Wutz
Me 262 is best from 43-46.
And before u say it was only prop figthers from 43-46.
109-G14, Fw190D9 and D12, and in 45 Ta-152 and Do 335.
LOL :-)

Not good enough to keep Germany from being set on fire.

[GRUNHERZ]

La7 was no good at alt so it simply cant be considered best overall fighter. And high alt performance was much more important in RL than in AH. Im talking over 20,000 at least.

[Tumor]

Originally posted by fdiron
Why is the F86 considered superior to the Mig15?  The Mig15 was superior to the F86 in performance.

Because the goobers who flew the Mig15s in Korea didn't do it "right" and got their tails waxed.  The Russian pilots did very well, but the North Koreans (and Chinese I think) who flew Migs got very poor training.  Just watched a documentary on the History channel the other day where a NK Mig pilot explained his Mig-15 training (from the Russians).  

Step 1: Introduction to the Aircraft (groundschool)
Step 2:  Take off
Step 3: Fly a circle around the field
Step 4: Land
Step 5: Report for combat duty

[Sarge1]

Originally posted by Wutz
(Spittius Dwebius Newbeeius Afraidius too figthus on equalius termius) and N(ewbee)1K(oward)2.

must be a civilian to say that... your confusing a game to real war.

[Wutz]

He he,, so many strong feelings for something I said.. lol I dont care what u say Spit fliers are dweeeebs. At least I dont pretend too be in the military Sarge1. and it is Montezuma who is confusing this game for a real war and Puck.. he he did the big bad german insult ur spit I am sorry.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Soviet
for 1943-1946 i'd vote the La-7 as the best 2 p-51s dived on a RUssian Aces La-7 and the La-7 pilot turned the fight around and killed both of the P-51 pilots.  It made the Germans crap their pants too when seeing it at low alt.

Hmm, then explain why the La-9 and La-11, as well as the Yak-9P were slaughtered over Korea by the F-51D (AKA P-51D).

Sounds like a propaganda fish story to me... Like the Soviet claims of F-86 kills, exceeding total production by 200%, and deployed aircraft totals by 400%. Here's a shocker... The Soviets frequently lied, or at the minimum, exaggerated to extremes. It's the nature of the communist system, the truth is what they say it is....

Some historians have concluded that Soviet (and Japanese) kill claims should be divided by 3 to get close to the actual numbers.

Now, before anyone whines about overclaiming by the Brits, Americans and Germans, understand that this is true. They did overclaim. But, only fractionally as compared to the Soviets and Japanese.

My regards,

Widewing