Author Topic: MK 103 in AH ? (Read 1090 times)

Heinkel · « **Reply #45 on:** May 30, 2002, 04:43:05 AM »

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'few and far between'

You could say the same thing about the ostwind. There were only a "handful" of them made too, yet it is in the game. A 262 with Mk103's or a 190 with Mk103's isn't too far fetched, the 262 with mk103's, and the 190 with 103's both flew combat sorties.

MiloMorai · « **Reply #46 on:** May 30, 2002, 07:05:08 AM »

There was 391 "Mobelwagen", "Wirbelwind", and "Ostwind" produced - all basically the same vehicle. There were other AA vehicles as well, are they all represented?

One Me262A-1a/U1 had MK103 cannons and flew ONE mission. So why not ask for the Me262(WkN112355) with 6 MK108 cannons as well? Or why not have the Me262 with the 4 MK213 cannons?

Am still waiting for a definate quantity produced for the Fw's /R3. How about some combat records of its use(where, when, who). What 'kills' did it claim.

Your logic means any prototype a/c should be included in AH.

Those MK103 on the Fw could not hit the broad side of the barn door if they were parked right in front of the door. Also the performance of the Fw was drastically reduced with the /R3.

Dr Zhivago · « **Reply #47 on:** May 30, 2002, 07:57:54 AM »

Produktion der Flakpanzer auf der Basis vom Fahrgestell des Panzer IV bis zum Mai 1945

Möbelwagen - 3,7cm Flak 43 -------- (44) *205 (45) *35
Wirbelwind - 2cm Flakvierling ------- (44) *100 (45) *6
Ostwind - 3,7cm Flak 43 ---------- (44) *15 (45) *28
Kugelblitz - 3cm MK 103/38 twin ----- (44) - (45) *5

Hs 129B-2/R2 and Hs 129B-2/Wa (Waffentrager) could carry MK 103 in ventral pod. He 219A-2/R2 carried two MK 103 under fuselage.

Wilbus · « **Reply #48 on:** May 30, 2002, 08:26:20 AM »

I've got some nice photos of 190's using underwing Mk103's, let me know if ya want em.

-ammo- · « **Reply #49 on:** May 30, 2002, 11:19:08 AM »

I dont know if this actually qualifies as evidence, or even how much it actually contributes to this dsicussion..but, I bought a plastic model kit of a FW-190F8 recently for my son and I to build and it came with Mk103 underwing pods. It looks downright vicious with them on it:cool:

Heinkel · « **Reply #50 on:** May 30, 2002, 01:23:39 PM »

Wil, been searching all over for pics of 190's with Mk103, and only found 1(the one i posted) , anymore would be great!

Thanks!
Heinkel

M.C.202 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 30, 2002, 09:18:29 PM »

So you support the cannon package for the F6F? More were built and used in combat, or the P47M, or the... ( add your fav here)

illo · « **Reply #52 on:** May 31, 2002, 07:25:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Hristo

Hmm, I'd say this one is an earlier version than A-8. No MG131 bulges on cowling. Also, inner gear doors, rare on later models.

Still, pursuing the MK103 on 190 is pretty interesting. A-8/R-8 then ? OK

It's Fw 190A-6/R3 Bomber-destroyer with 2 MK 103 30mm cannon in underwing pods