Author Topic: Violence against women (Read 1555 times)

Tumor · « **on:** June 03, 2002, 02:02:23 AM »

..seen that commercial? Can't tell if thier in a diner or friends in a house but, the guy is yelling at the blonde, holding her by the arm and threatening to "knock her into next week". Meanwhile wimpola #1 is sitting there ignoring everything while his little boy has this "shocked" look on his face.

....am I alone here or would anyone else here get up and loosen a few of that amazinhunks teeth? (best friend or not?)

capt. apathy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 03, 2002, 06:39:31 AM »

Been there and done that, usually to find the 'victim' cracking you in the head with a bottle or whatever’s handy.

As I've grown older I've learned to stay out of couples fights unless she seems to be in immediate danger.

If it's really serious she has time to leave him or put up with it, (her choice), and 99 times out of 100 she's gonna forgive him in 2 days anyway leaving you as the meddling salamander

Hortlund · « **Reply #2 on:** June 03, 2002, 09:35:48 AM »

I see too many of those at work. Trust me Apathy, it's never better to "stay out of couples fights unless she seems to be in immediate danger". If it looks bad in public, it'll get ten times worse when they are alone.

Personally I cant stand those guys. They are the lowest of the low.

Tumor · « **Reply #3 on:** June 03, 2002, 10:20:14 AM »

I agree. Those "types" of .. well, by viture of thier sex I have to refer to them as "Men", are no more than great big wuss's in dire need of an bellybutton kicking.

I've been there and done that a couple times myself. Only backfire I ever got was the girl actually came to me saying the guy had hit her. Luckily I asked a couple questions after I had the guy in the corner and turns out he'd more or less back-handed her while SHE was putting a cigarrette out on his back (even show'd me the burn). Guess the moral of the story is... find out the facts before ya loosen those teeth lol.

midnight Target · « **Reply #4 on:** June 03, 2002, 10:36:54 AM »

I actually rescued my piece-o-crap ex-wife from her abusive boyfriend. The guy cowered in the corner like a little girl while I moved her out of his house.
Men who beat on women usually aren't men at all.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2002, 10:53:36 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target

Men who beat on women usually aren't men at all.

100% accurate and true.

Pongo · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2002, 11:42:40 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
I actually rescued my piece-o-crap ex-wife from her abusive boyfriend. The guy cowered in the corner like a little girl while I moved her out of his house.
Men who beat on women usually aren't men at all.

Dowding · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2002, 12:00:52 PM »

Easier said than done Hortlund. A friend of mine who happens to be an instructor in Taekwando (no idea how to spell it, obviously) tried to stop a bloke hitting a woman in the street. While he was 'restraining' the guy, she took off her stilleto and started trying to aerate his head.

The response of women in domestic violence is very bizarre. An ex-girlfriend runs a women's support group - many of the members have been victims of this type of violence. They'll very often go back to the bloke even if he's tried to put her in intensive care. She says the situation follows a cycle of violence, reconcilliation, tension and violence again; one of the biggest factors is the woman's fear of being alone if she has children.

The stigma of the single mother has alot to answer for.

Tac · « **Reply #8 on:** June 03, 2002, 12:13:51 PM »

People like that make me fantasize of dental surgery. On them of course. Grrrr.

The sad part is that many women in that situation either dont have a way out of such relationships or are too afraid to try to get out. Even worse, if you get involved and kick that buttwipe's teeth off, you'll be in legal trouble real quick (yes, cowards that hit women prefer lawyers to deal with those that kick THEIR asses).

Hortlund · « **Reply #9 on:** June 03, 2002, 12:15:31 PM »

Yeah, I know. There are aspects of this that I will never understand. For some reason some women seems to be drawn to abusive guys. Some will refuse to leave the guy even though odds are he will eventually kill them. Its really weird. I dont know how many girls I've seen who have been beat up really bad, and then when they are on the witness stand, they claim it was their own fault. *shakes head*

Worst I've seen was a girl who almost got beat to death. The guy banged her head against a concrete wall so bad her skull broke (bad english). He then proceeded to kick four of her ribs in when she was on the floor. That punctured one of her lungs. She managed to crawl out the door, and the neighbours called the police. She spent something like 4 weeks in the hospital after that. When it was time for the trial, she was denying everything "It was all my fault, I provoked him and I hit him first, he only tried to push me away and I stumbled and fell into a table". Luckily the cops had her on video (The police here always brings a video camera when they are called to a domestic violence situation <--smart) so the guy got convicted. But I dont understand why she would do what she did. I just dont understand.

(Oh, and the reason he beat her up so bad? She went to a photographer and had her picture taken. She wanted to give him a picture of herself as a present. For some reason the guy saw that picture as the ultimate proof that she was cheating on him)

I wanted to kill that guy.

Thrawn · « **Reply #10 on:** June 03, 2002, 12:16:32 PM »

Women kill more children then men do in the US. And I'm talking homicide not infanticide.

I highly recommend you read, "When she was bad", by Patricia Pearson.

Women are just as violent as men and just as agressive.

Hortlund · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2002, 12:18:14 PM »

dude...

Nifty · « **Reply #12 on:** June 03, 2002, 12:39:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Women kill more children then men do in the US. And I'm talking homicide not infanticide.

I highly recommend you read, "When she was bad", by Patricia Pearson.

Women are just as violent as men and just as agressive.

I don't think men being more inherently violent was a point of contention in this thread.

Kanth · « **Reply #13 on:** June 03, 2002, 01:05:30 PM »

It's definately not a gender thing.

It's not even a human thing.

People of both genders will abuse pretty much anyone or anything they think they can get away with.

Whether it's the child not wanting to leave abusive parents...the woman not wanting to leave the abusive man, or the pet who is chained up in the back yard....doesn't matter.

DmdKanth

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Women kill more children then men do in the US. And I'm talking homicide not infanticide.

I highly recommend you read, "When she was bad", by Patricia Pearson.

Women are just as violent as men and just as agressive.

Maverick · « **Reply #14 on:** June 03, 2002, 01:11:54 PM »

Gents,

Best not to take in active part in thumping the jerk. Use the freaking phone and call the Police. Those are the type of calls that cops respond to in pairs, for a reason. You often find the "lil woman" all over your back as you start to take the "meal ticket" out of the house. If they are leaving, get the license number and report that as the address can be found through a fast check with DMV.

Do NOT get actively involved unless an actuall serious assault is taking place. You will likely end up with an assault charge levied against you by the problem starter for your trouble. If he is thumping on her then peel him off and "restrain" him, using ONLY that force that was necessary to do so. Any more and you will be an assualt suspect as well. Make sure the Police are on the way and try to have multiple witnesses to cover your backside. Be prepared to follow through and go to court to testify as to what the idiot did. You may be the ONLY prosecuting witness as the wife will usually wimp out.

Quite often these are lose lose situations as prosecution by the wife happens very seldom. Frustrating in the extreme. Been there many MANY times on the job.