Author Topic: Violence against women (Read 1557 times)

Thrawn · « **Reply #45 on:** June 05, 2002, 02:48:43 PM »

In terms of damage done, this study found theat levels of medical care, days off work, and time spent bedridden were not significantly different between the sexes (162-163)

See "Violent Marriages: Gender Differences in Levels of Current Violence and Past Abuse," Journal of Family Violence 10:2 (1995), 159-175

Hortlund · « **Reply #46 on:** June 05, 2002, 02:53:03 PM »

That is weird. Here in Sweden, statistically, a women is beaten to death every week by her husband. And, again statistically, once every third year a man is killed by his wife.

koala · « **Reply #47 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:03:59 PM »

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Yeah HBlair, I hear what yer saying. But when you see a nice looking girl getting pulled off a bike, thrown into a brick wall and then hit in the face with a fist, then you get pissed off.

I guess if she was ugly then you wouldn't be quite as pissed off.

Thrawn · « **Reply #48 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:13:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
That is weird. Here in Sweden, statistically, a women is beaten to death every week by her husband. And, again statistically, once every third year a man is killed by his wife.

Of course it's wierd. It goes against everything the second wave feminists have been trying to say since the 70's. And what western society thinks of as manly.

I don't have the stats on man/woman domestic murder. Just parent/child.

Hortlund · « **Reply #49 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:21:49 PM »

Thrawn, I see these people at work not every day, but often enough. I have yet to see a case where a women has beaten up her husband. I have seen plenty of cases where men have beaten the crap out of their women. That is no feminist propaganda, that is a fact.

You know as well as I do that you can prove almost anyting using statistics. Now, to me, the statistics you presented are somewhat weird in the sence that they are talking about who initiates domestic violence. That is irrelevant. It would appear to me that they have asked the wrong questions. The question should not be "why did you hit your wife, what started the fight" the only question should be "did you hit your wife". There is no justification, no excuses, no sympathy and no understanding. Hitting a woman, wife or girlfriend is always wrong. Always. No matter who said what, no matter who did what (as I said, short of the woman attacking the man with a knife).

Hortlund · « **Reply #50 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:23:51 PM »

Also, those statistics are probably based on police and/or hospital records. And not all cases of domestic violence is reported (to put it mildly)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #51 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:24:38 PM »

Thrawns a wife beater, trying to justify it.

Thrawn · « **Reply #52 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:33:03 PM »

In the initial survey in 1980 asked just that question. Do you hit your husband/wife? Do you severely injure them etc.

The survay found that there was an almost equal number of mem and women responded yes to sever abuse. And 12% of men said yes to minor, but recurring abuse and 11.6% of women said yes to the same.

Well the feminists went apeshit. "Yeah, but who initializes the violence?", they asked.

Hence the second survey in 1985. Which proved that both sexes did equally.

Hortlund · « **Reply #53 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:35:07 PM »

So Thrawn, do you see any difference between a guy hitting a girl and a girl hitting a guy?

Thrawn · « **Reply #54 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:43:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
Also, those statistics are probably based on police and/or hospital records. And not all cases of domestic violence is reported (to put it mildly)

No, they aren't based on police and/or hospital records. They are based on a survey of thousands of American households.

Domestic abuse of females is under reported. But domestic abuse of males is even more unreported. These guys know exactly how western society would view them...as rutabagas that can't handle their women.

Thrawn · « **Reply #55 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:44:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
So Thrawn, do you see any difference between a guy hitting a girl and a girl hitting a guy?

No, I see it as violence.

I hope a personal attack isn't coming now.

Hortlund · « **Reply #56 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:49:55 PM »

No need for a personal attack, your words pretty much speak for themselves.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #57 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:50:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn

No, I see it as violence.

I hope a personal attack isn't coming now.

No, I already gave you one for both of us

Resume your beatings.

Hortlund · « **Reply #58 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:50:30 PM »

I was hoping Rip was wrong though...

Ripsnort · « **Reply #59 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:53:18 PM »

I actually had a female pull a kitchen knive on me was, I could have provoked her further, I simple turned and walked out (your peripherial vision becomes very keen when a weapon is displayed, thats where they got the term "Eyes in the back of your head")

I had the perfect opportunity to do whatever I needed to do physically, but since I'm a pretty powerful guy compared to a petite woman, it would have been no match. Walking away was the best thing.