Author Topic: Violence against women (Read 1554 times)

Thrawn · « **Reply #15 on:** June 03, 2002, 01:26:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Nifty

I don't think men being more inherently violent was a point of contention in this thread.

Didn't see any posts about anyone kicking the crap out of a woman for hitting a man.

Tuomio · « **Reply #16 on:** June 03, 2002, 01:39:43 PM »

I feel pity for the woman, since i see it as her own fault. She can leave anytime she wants, but doesent. Well, take the beating then, i aint going to resolve their marriage problems. Unless they pay for it..Its like going to boxing ring with Mike Tyson and still staying there after the bell has rang. Either youre getting big bucks or are just plain stupid.

Ofcourse a lifethreatening situation would be different, atleast i would call the cops, since i wouldnt risk my own life for some strangers.

Thrawn · « **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2002, 01:46:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Tuomio
I feel pity for the woman, since i see it as her own fault. She can leave anytime she wants, but doesent.

Yeah, ya might want to read up on battered woman syndrome.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #18 on:** June 03, 2002, 01:50:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn

Yeah, ya might want to read up on battered woman syndrome.

Was it Maslow's theory that had the "Pyramid"? Anyway, Psych 101 will teach you (Tuomio) why women stay in such predicaments. The same can apply to men and have...such as in the form of torture to extract information during war.

Sikboy · « **Reply #19 on:** June 03, 2002, 02:01:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort

Was it Maslow's theory that had the "Pyramid"?

Yeah, "Hierarchy of needs" I'm not sure how applicable it might be to this one, but the theory might read like this: Since man (or in this case woman) must satisfy the most basic features of survival such as food and water, shelter ect, these features will superceede all other factors of ones existance. Only when the survival needs have been aquired can a person move on to the next level (not sure what it is been a while) which might include "the need to not get the crap beat out of you by some love muffin in a NASCAR tank-top with a miller lite (just kidding guys, relax).

Just a guess based on my super limited experience with Maslow.

-Sikboy

Thrawn · « **Reply #20 on:** June 03, 2002, 02:09:07 PM »

"Higherarchy of Needs"

Take a dog, stick in a cage. Everytime the dog tries to leave the cage, sap it with a cattle prod. Pretty soon the dog loses all motivation to leave the cage.

The part of battered woman syndrome I don't buy, is when they flip out and kill the husband. If the they were so unmotivated and completely controlled by this guy how could they go and stab him in the chest 20 times or what have you. I think cases like this are justifable homocide (al a Judy Sturm) as opposed to temporary insanity (al a Francine Hughes).

Kanth · « **Reply #21 on:** June 03, 2002, 03:10:21 PM »

Two women go out one weekend without
their husbands. As they came back,
right before dawn, both of them drunk,
they felt the urge to pee. They noticed
the only place to stop was a cemetery.
Scared and drunk, they stopped and
decided to go there anyway.

The first one did not have anything to
clean herself with, so she took off her
panties and used them to clean herself
and discarded them.

The second not finding anything either,
thought "I'm not getting rid of my
panties..." so she used the ribbon of a
flower wreath to clean herself.

The morning after, the two husbands were
talking to each other on the phone, and
one says to the other: " We have to be
on the look-out, it seems that these two
were up to no good last night, being as
how my wife came home without her
panties...".

The other one responded: "You're lucky,
mine came home with a card stuck to her
bellybutton that read, "We will never forget you."

DmdKanth

Gunthr · « **Reply #22 on:** June 03, 2002, 06:57:00 PM »

Spouse abuse is an awful thing, especially where kids are involved.

I have compassion for people, but when I have to deal with these cases, I usually despise both parties. (There are exceptions.) Reasoning just doesn't work with these people. They need psychotherapy.

Voss · « **Reply #23 on:** June 03, 2002, 08:57:52 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
I actually rescued my piece-o-crap ex-wife from her abusive boyfriend. The guy cowered in the corner like a little girl while I moved her out of his house.
Men who beat on women usually aren't men at all.

Been there too, mt.

MuadDib of Dune · « **Reply #24 on:** June 03, 2002, 10:55:13 PM »

A dear freind of mine was stabbed to death a few years ago as he tried to intervene in a domestic dispute.

Be careful as you weigh your options under such circumstances, you may just bite off more than you can chew.

StSanta · « **Reply #25 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:48:20 AM »

Heh, my nextdoor neighbor used to seriously slap his beeatch around. When she tried to flee, he'd rip her off her bike and throw her up against my windows and then beat on her.

Well, he did that once.

One of my neighbor is an old druggie, working to rehab himself. Another one is an ex con just out of jail, having spent the last 8 years in there (he's 28).

Was fun. Between the tree of us, we taught that SOB a lesson.

Sure, cowardly of us to be 3v1. Then again, I feel little pity for those who initiate violence against weaker beings. Ours was a mere response

And he hasn't hurt anyone as far as I or my dear neighbors can tell since.

I say a good bellybutton whoopin' is what some of these SPOILED brats need. He lived highly on people's 'respect of privacy' 'let them sort it out themselves' attitude - until he got caught.

Hortlund · « **Reply #26 on:** June 05, 2002, 04:13:13 AM »

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Originally posted by StSanta
Another one is an ex con just out of jail, having spent the last 8 years in there (he's 28).

Whooo. You live in Denmark right? If that guy was sentenced to 8 years in prison when he was 28 he must have murdered someone, either that or a *serious* drug offence (like trying to smuggle in 2 kg of cocain or something)...right?

Got me curious, thats all

Samm · « **Reply #27 on:** June 05, 2002, 05:37:39 AM »

It's a bad situation all around. Dude I knew got shot when the guy he was with interviened in a public domestic dispute. Also another similar situation, the chick became angry at the dude who stopped her boyfriend and took her dickhead boyfriends side when the cops showed up. I find that happens a lot . I've also seen chicks go from one abusive relationship to another. Sad .

fdiron · « **Reply #28 on:** June 05, 2002, 09:14:55 AM »

Ignorant folks always seem to be getting into trouble. Ignorant women don't seem to want to leave abusive relationships. People with borderline personality disorders are very often attracted to sociopaths.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #29 on:** June 05, 2002, 09:26:29 AM »

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Originally posted by fdiron
Ignorant women don't seem to want to leave abusive relationships. People with borderline personality disorders are very often attracted to sociopaths.

Fdiron, its not that women are ignorant. Read up on Maslow's "Hierarchy of needs", then you'll understand how even you could be a victim if given the right circumstances. Its not about ignorance.