Author Topic: Violence against women (Read 1558 times)

Thrawn · « **Reply #60 on:** June 05, 2002, 03:55:53 PM »

Sweet, ad hominem!!!

I take you concede my points then.

Thrawn · « **Reply #61 on:** June 05, 2002, 04:06:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I actually had a female pull a kitchen knive on me was, I could have provoked her further, I simple turned and walked out (your peripherial vision becomes very keen when a weapon is displayed, thats where they got the term "Eyes in the back of your head")

I had the perfect opportunity to do whatever I needed to do physically, but since I'm a pretty powerful guy compared to a petite woman, it would have been no match. Walking away was the best thing.

Great idea, assuming you have the emotional and psycological wherewithal to walk away.

Hortlund · « **Reply #62 on:** June 05, 2002, 04:40:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Sweet, ad hominem!!!

I take you concede my points then.

?? What points?

Thrawn · « **Reply #63 on:** June 05, 2002, 04:52:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund

?? What points?

Uhh..you might want to read the thread again.

Hortlund · « **Reply #64 on:** June 05, 2002, 05:07:05 PM »

LOL no way.

Just answer me this: Were you talking to me or rip when you wrote "I take you concede my points then. "

Dowding · « **Reply #65 on:** June 05, 2002, 05:15:59 PM »

I don't see why you should label Thrawn a wife beater for posting statistics. He seemed to pointing out that domestic violence happens to both sexes and that abusive relationships can be a two-way phenomenon. I've indirect experience of the latter and can accept the former occurs.

I'm trying to find the part where he even implied it was justifiable to hit a woman (or anybody else for that matter)... nope... can't find it. Must be the usual O-club chest-beating bollocks.

Carry on...

Thrawn · « **Reply #66 on:** June 05, 2002, 05:51:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
I was hoping Rip was wrong though...

So now you think he is right, and that I'm a wife beater. Hence, you have both personally attacked me instead of arguing against the points I have made. Rip, I pretty sure you were kidding.

You know what, say for the sake arguement that I am a wife beater. That would in no way invalidate the statistical evidence I have given in this thread.

Hortlund · « **Reply #67 on:** June 05, 2002, 06:12:44 PM »

WHAT statistical evidence?

This?
Approx. 50% of domestic abuse is initiated mutually.
Approx. 25% of domestic abuse is initiated by the male.
Approx. 25% of domestic abuse is initiated by the female.
This is assuming heterosexual relationship.
Straus/Gelles survey, 1985

What exactly are you trying to prove with those figures?
And what the he** does "mutually initiated domestic abuse" mean?

As for the "So now you think he is right, and that I'm a wife beater. Hence, you have both personally attacked me instead of arguing against the points I have made. "

Actually, all I said was that I was hoping rip was wrong, from that you drew all kinds of conclusions.

Samm · « **Reply #68 on:** June 05, 2002, 06:28:06 PM »

Only a punk wife beater would think that ad hominem isn't a valid form of debate !

Thrawn · « **Reply #69 on:** June 05, 2002, 06:39:11 PM »

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Only a punk wife beater would think that ad hominem isn't a valid form of debate !

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heheh.

Hortland, I hope I'm wrong in thinking that you are really, REALLY, thick.

Hortlund · « **Reply #70 on:** June 05, 2002, 06:41:25 PM »

What exactly are you trying to prove with those figures?

Tac · « **Reply #71 on:** June 05, 2002, 06:42:54 PM »

another thing to ponder on...

Men:

would you fall in love and marry a woman that you know can beat the crap out of you?

And for the ladies:

Would to fall in love and marry a man that you know can beat the crap out of you?

Then answer :

Men:
would you fall in love and marry a woman that you know you can beat the crap out of?

Ladies:

Would to fall in love and marry a man that you know you can beat the crap out of?

Please answer the above in Y/N and give a SHORT reason why.

Thrawn · « **Reply #72 on:** June 05, 2002, 06:51:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Hortlund
What exactly are you trying to prove with those figures?

Despite current societal perceptions, American women are responsible for as much domestic violence (between adult couples) as men are.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #73 on:** June 06, 2002, 07:48:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn

Despite current societal perceptions, American women are responsible for as much domestic violence (between adult couples) as men are.

They might initiate it, but I can assure you that due to their size and strength, if violence erupts, I'm sure there are stats that would show that out of, say 20 "beatings", 1 was a man and 19 were women.

It matters not who starts what. A guy should never strike a women unless in a case of self defense when his life is threatened. End of story.

Nifty · « **Reply #74 on:** June 06, 2002, 09:55:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
A guy should never strike a women unless in a case of self defense when his life is threatened. End of story.

when is it ok for a woman to strike a man?