Author Topic: Invisible Planes First Real AH Gameplay Crisis (Read 1337 times)

thrila · « **Reply #75 on:** June 18, 2002, 09:30:31 AM »

Had some wierdness the other night shooting down a b26. I shotoff it's wingtip and tail but it continued to fly as if nothing had happened- and still shooting at me...grrrrr. About 2 mins later it went into a death dive as if it had just taken the damage, to him it may have looked like an invisible con but it was lag- got it on film too, it's pretty funny.

Morsa · « **Reply #76 on:** June 18, 2002, 10:00:22 AM »

I didn't believe until this has happend to me.
Less than an hour ago, at about 10:15 eastern.
I heve sent the film to support@hitechcreations.com.
I it is amazingly neat and clear.
A P51 at 850 yds on my 12 o'clock, passes my left wing and vanishes, some pings are heard but nothing on my 6, 3 seconds after the first pings a P51 apears 400 yds . on my 6 and continue there until the kill. The name of the awarded is in the text buffer, but there were others planes around and I cant certify is the same pilot in the P51.

The server was runnig smooth and there were 49+34+35 players, and no more than a dozen arround me.

Forgot to talk to the other guy though.

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Originally posted by Pyro
....Anyway, the quickest solution to a problem like this is to get it on film and send it to support@hitechcreations.com and to talk to the other guy. Even if you don't have a film, talking to the other guy can shed a lot of light on it for us or you or all of us.

DrDea · « **Reply #77 on:** June 18, 2002, 10:19:04 AM »

Today in a suicide dive on a CV in a F4UD I dropped and ran.I was amazed to live through it and 2 mins later as I flew alon with nothing nearby I explode.Checked Que and it was outta sight.WHo knows.Area 51 map stuff

Widewing · « **Reply #78 on:** June 18, 2002, 10:27:32 AM »

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Originally posted by DrDea
Today in a suicide dive on a CV in a F4UD I dropped and ran.I was amazed to live through it and 2 mins later as I flew alon with nothing nearby I explode.Checked Que and it was outta sight.WHo knows.Area 51 map stuff

Had something like this last night. Lanc was 5k ahead of me, then 5k behind me, then 5 k ahead of me again. I checked net status and found huge spikes in variance of delay and que time. This has become commonplace in recent days. Finally, the spikes settled down and I was able to bag the Lanc, once I knew where it was for sure. It was like chasing a shadow.

My regards,

Widewing

Morsa · « **Reply #79 on:** June 18, 2002, 10:30:35 AM »

No, the pilot who killed me wasn't the P51, but it is easy to find his name.

Checked my film with the ahfilm utility I have found the names of all flying arround, only one P51 there, and even you can "jump" in the cockpit of this P51, just to see again how "you" (the P51) exites the scene and re-enter at the six of the "enmy" (me) 109.

Good program the ahfilm!, I haven't use it before. Very nice.

straffo · « **Reply #80 on:** June 18, 2002, 10:40:30 AM »

I've a question about AH films : they record what happen on your FE no ?

So why should this P51 have another behaviour than what you've
seen online ?

In fact I only trust HTC about film interpretation

Creamo · « **Reply #81 on:** June 18, 2002, 10:49:33 AM »

For what it’s worth, I never see odd stuff that I recall.

Since the MA connect has cleared up considerably in the last month, there WAS lotsa warpage, but I didn’t find that odd other than it wasn’t the norm prior to the AW exodus. Certainly not any cheats. Anyway, I usually film when going into a fight for various reasons.

2 nights ago I was flying with Central dragging some planes around (which is half the fun of the Dora), and looking back at the cons at 1.0 after they bit. 1.0 went to 1.2, to 1.4, I was laughing wondering why they were still there at 1.6 setting up the next BnZ E run which would be good whine inducing kills turning the tables.

Then “CRACK, ping boom” times 4 in a split second, TOWER.

Someone got the kill message, and open channeled me to the tune of “Bet you didn’t see that Creamo.” I certainly was doing a full time straight check 6 drag amusing look, and I positively hadn’t seen him. I thought I had ran right into a GV in drag mode. Then I read all this invisible plane BBS stuff. So I checked the scores. Scores say no GV kills.

Hmmm, maybe a high out of range plane came down seems plausible. Dunno, was impaired beings 1 of the last flights of the night on a weekend.

Point is, it’s the 1st time I was so miffed on SA.

Then to read related “invisible” threads that seemed to coincide what I found odd, might just be a coincidence. He pry was high and whipped my ass.

If it was a invisible plane, he knew it.

Stew on that.

ET · « **Reply #82 on:** June 18, 2002, 10:51:09 AM »

Yes, there are invisible planes in here. When Bishops reported rockets showing up at A8 Mindy map, I went to the town in an Osty.
After watching the base flash for about 10 minutes, I looked up and paratroopers were appearing in the sky with no C47 visible.
This was reported in bug forum but I did not get a picture of it.
DJ111 asked me several times if I was kidding and went to A8 when I convinced him I wasn't.While there he saw rockets with no plane and got a proximity kill on some one neither one of us saw.

BigGun · « **Reply #83 on:** June 18, 2002, 11:14:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Widewing

You might not find it so amusing if you saw your K/D drop by 1.4 ............5.2 down to 3.8 due entirely to discos is not a minor difference.

5.4 to 3.8 with only 12 discos, I don't think so. The only way this could happen is if it was very early in the tour. Then all discos had to happen in a 1 or 2 day period. I personnally don't have much of problem with discos, so don't fully understand the frustration i guess.

At least state the facts honestly. No way has discos dropped your K/D 1.4.....from past tours scores I see no evidence of a 5.4 being sustainable

SKurj · « **Reply #84 on:** June 18, 2002, 01:46:28 PM »

Well... last night i filmed the first occurence of an invisible plane i have ever encountered....

An La7 attacks a buff from lo 6. The buff opens up on him, and gets him smoking, he vanishes!! ... but!! I notice the buff is still shooting, and tracks something from its lo 6 to lo 12. The la7 then reappeared and went boom.

Obviously the buff could see the con, but it vanished on my fe

SKurj

Sky Viper · « **Reply #85 on:** June 18, 2002, 04:32:15 PM »

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Originally posted by AKWarp
Someone (can't remember who) had an ordeal the other night where an invisible plane was blowing up a town. Several people saw the event and I understand it was filmed.

Rocket exhaust was appearing out of thin air and the town was taking damage, but no aircraft or GV was visible.

Did whomever filmed this post the films?????

Ever seen lag so bad that some gents launch from beside the CV?
Ever seen the CV gun tracers depart from some rediculous spot a mile to the side/rear/front of the CV when you're looking right at it?

I have.

I've also seen planes move at mach 12 (dar dot included) across the sky, and end on my six or someone elses.

I chock it up to TERRIBLE lag.
Sometimes I can tell it's on my ISP/TELCO end, but usually, it happens when the arena is loaded up and a great many people are in the same field of view.
We've been complaining for months about issues that all point in the same direction.

Next time you see "invisible plane" evidence, check the roster and see how many people are on board. I'll bet it's high.

Viper

Widewing · « **Reply #86 on:** June 18, 2002, 04:41:33 PM »

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Originally posted by BigGun

5.4 to 3.8 with only 12 discos, I don't think so. The only way this could happen is if it was very early in the tour. Then all discos had to happen in a 1 or 2 day period. I personnally don't have much of problem with discos, so don't fully understand the frustration i guess.

At least state the facts honestly. No way has discos dropped your K/D 1.4.....from past tours scores I see no evidence of a 5.4 being sustainable

That was based upon the misunderstanding that a disco = 1 death. It turns out that it equals only 0.5 deaths. Therefore the difference should be rightly halved. This still adds 4.5 deaths against 103 kills, plus actual deaths. So if I had 22 deaths +1 +4.5 we have 27.5. 103/27.5 = 3.74 103/23 = 4.47, or roughly half of the 1.4. No dishonestly involved.

As to sustainable K/D, don't kid yourself, maintaining 4.0 is easy if you decide that this is one's priority. If I flew the Yak all tour, avoided bombers, GVs and ack (like some do), I could double that with ease. With ease. Hell, almost anyone could. It would be as boring as hell, but not especially difficult. Careful flying, good SA and a healthy dose of running can generate wildly high K/Ds.

My regards,

Widewing

BigGun · « **Reply #87 on:** June 18, 2002, 04:47:38 PM »

Understand now I think...just sounded little overstated. I can see if K/D is important to ya, would be frustrating to get bunch of discos. I guess I am glad I only get a few a month.

Widewing · « **Reply #88 on:** June 18, 2002, 04:54:42 PM »

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Originally posted by BigGun
Understand now I think...just sounded little overstated. I can see if K/D is important to ya, would be frustrating to get bunch of discos. I guess I am glad I only get a few a month.

It's important to me, but not an obcession. As I've stated, getting the K/D up isn't hard. Doing it like Mathman and Leviathn, mostly in furballs, that's impressive.

My regards,

Widewing

Karnak · « **Reply #89 on:** June 18, 2002, 05:22:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Apache:
I think I have been a "ghost" plane twice. No net status, just froze. Text buffer working normally. No icons on any aircraft, friend or foe, just dots.

However, no matter how I tried, I couldn't close on the dots, so I don't know how these "ghost" planes shoot folks down. Maybe my state was just too far gone to id any ac. It only lasted about 1 to 2 minutes, then I disco.

Like Widewing, the router change has really porked the arena for me as well.

I have experienced this exact thing a few times now, although not since I rebuilt my system. I had wondered how I appeared on other's FMS, not that I was a threat, as you noted the dots were unapproachable. I guess we must have been invisible to others as we would have been easy pickings, then again maybe we were flying around in a wingless, flaming wreck on their FMs.

Its weird how the text buffer keeps working.