calling fellow brits

[muckmaw]

I'm sorry to offend you Cav, but some people make me feel that way. We, the Americans, are the first nation the world calls on when theres a crisis, and then the same nations bastardize us for our actions.

But let me address some of your statements.

Tony Blair is, IMO, and excellent leader, and an honorble friend to our nation.

The English people are always the first to offer their support, whether militarily or otherwise.

I hardly think (And please don't take offense at this) that there is anything militarily speaking, that Great Britain, or any other nation could offer, that we could not provide for ourselves.

As for our political system, is our system not based on the English system of Paliament?

Can you sit there and tell me the gentlemen in Paliament only act in the best interest of the people all the time? None of these honorable souls are guilty of feathering their own nests?

I find that a hard pill to swallow.

No one person could change my opinion of Great Britain as a whole. As Zep put it, we are like siblings. And I consider the English people some of the finest on earth.

[paintmaw]

OK Swoop ,, I stand corrected , Diana was a great woman , and will be missed , she did more good for the family than many before her .
I think I will just agree with Zip and leave it at that
<SALUTE> Brits and the English

[AKEagle+]

IMNSHO, I think that Great Briton is the best friend that the U.S. has.

After we sorted our family squabbles out in 1776 and 1812, things have been downhill ever since.  Oh we have our moments, hehehe, but nothing of import.

We share a common past, and a view of the future that includes freedom, individual rights and dignity for all human beings.  We may not agree on all paths to get there, but we at least understand that sometimes you have to be willing to fight for these things.

I am one Yank who thinks that the Brits are first rate, first class peoples, whose only downfall is that they don’t understand what “Football” really is  

May the Brits and the US always be as one.

AKEagle+

[Revvin]

The fact Britain and America are such allies makes it hard for alot of us to understand why Clinton pushed so hard to more or less force Britain into giving in to the IRA terrorists to release the prisoners, its hard for alot of us to understand why the collections for the IRA/NORAID were not seized by your government. We stand with you against terrorism and send troops to Afghanistan and thats why I ask you guys to think about where your money goes when the good ole boys come round on St Patricks day with the collection plates. You lost many innocent people in that terrible attack on Sept 11th but the IRA have killed just as many in years gone by.

I've made alot of friends across the pond infact my XO is looking to get posted here in blighty in the not too distant future so he can drink some decent beer  

 

whose only downfall is that they don’t understand what “Football” really is

I like the game, like you said I don't understand all the rules, but then the same goes for Rugby LOL but our troops beat yours in a game of American Football so someone must have given them a rule book  

[Joc]

PLEASE dont argue about the situation here its WAY too complicated!,having witnessed my best friend get murdered by IRA Ive a lot of feelings running through me,and Im still fked up by what I saw,I hope this war on terrorism gets to my little land,the sad truth is that Protestants and Catholics get on fine here!,as usual its the small minority of avacados with their heads filled full of crap thats been passed on by generations that causes all this,same all over the world,its the rest of us that suffers because of em.And they get away with it.The two guys that killed my friend? walked free after 3 years thanks to our Good Friday Agreement,what a price to pay for putting 2 bullets into my mates head and 4 into his back,he was only 19.

[Swoop]

Yeah.


Lets just end this subject here while we're all being nice and friendly.   Ireland can be a very touchy subject to a lot of us and Zip is dead right about GB/US relations.  


Oh and Zip......erm.......in the event of an RAF - USAAF/USN/USMC showdown, well, guess I'd be lookin for a temporary guest spot.    

Check 6 matey.    

 
 

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[paintmaw]

I had lunch with 4 brits at the Kentucky Derby about 3 years ago , great bunch of guys , I don't dislike anyone because of where they are from , religion or whatever . I guess I need to pay more attention to what may be read into what I post . Sorry if I pissed anyone off <S>

[hazed-]

We brits may not be the diplomats of the world but i know who id want sitting in that foxhole with me and it isnt a frenchmen!


RULE BRITANNIA  

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[Nifty]

Revvin, so they beat us once in American Football.  if you look hard enough, you can find instances where we beat you in YOUR football too ya know.  in 1950, we beat England 1-0 in the World Cup.    Everyone gets their day in the sun.  

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by Seeker:
Revin,

We're talking of a people who devoutly believed in "the war on drugs" led by Presidents who either "never inhaled", or were caught deep in the nose candy.

Now they believe in "the war on terrorism", while conviently forgetting the massive, world wide scale America has sponsored terrorism.


Truly, we are in the age of "newspeak".

So...um....you think we're being hypocritical, is that it?  

An Englishman...who thinks Americans are hypocritical....

Heh heh.

- oldman

[FlyingDuckSittingSwan]

Here's my opinion.

AMERICA SUX!!!  

Joking...

really though, I have lot of respect for Americans cos they are the most responsible superpower ever. Take us Brits. We were kicked out of every bloody country we had during the British Empire. And with good reason!!! India booted us out, Afghanistan booted us out, the Zulus...the South Africans..the Americans!!. So we can't complain about Americans, cos Americans maybe do set up bases in other countries but they also give em aid, whereas us Brits used to rape their women and rape their land...if they didn't like it...well, we'd send the army in!
Then we have the Iraqi war...that was all Americans...we were just there as a supporting role. 90 per cent of the forces were American, we made up, what? 5 percent? And I hear people complain that it was a "war for oil". HYPOCRITES! How many people in Britain complain when the price of petrol goes up a few pence???  

Americans have to understand that Britain is a nation which in little time went from a superpower empire to a nation which can just about compete with Luxembourg, so you have to understand that we are very proud and like to think we can be at a par with you Yanks, but deep down we know we can't.

A common myth in Britain is that we have the best army in the world. What a joke! Britain can't even fight a proper conventional war without help from another NATO country. Britain doesn't have any real fighters. Tornados can't compete with the likes of an F-16 or Mig 29. Ok, the EuroFighter is coming in...but not too early, that's for sure. What about British tank busters? Oh yes, thank you America for giving us the license to make your Apaches. But still not enough... Where's the BRITISH NAVY??? Two small carriers? IS THAT IT??? And all they can use are those sub-sonic rubbish v/stol crappy ancient Harrier jump0jets. CAN YOU SAY OBSELETE? Compare that with the 12 HUGE AMERICAN CARRIERS. And who's got the best SPECIAL FORCES in the world? SAS? HAHAHA...RUBBISH. The SEALS my friend.
Ok, what does SAS stand for? Special Air Service. What does SEALS stand for? SEA AIR LAND. What happens when the SAS are sent to operations in the sea? They drown. Or they send the SBS (SPECIAL BOAT SERVICE). SEALS go everywhere. And then we have DELTA force..the 10th mountain...and those secretive CIA special forces units. BA...we can't compare.

Let's admit the yanks beat us in army, navy or air force matters. WE should compare ourselves with France...maybe.

Saying that, Britain isn't totally useless. What about the WTC. Guess where it was insured. Yep, that's right. Us Brits will foot the bill for replaciing the WTC. Yanks have to thank us for that.  

Overall...we have to thank the Yanks even though their sports are totally crap.  
Who wants to see 20 sweaty big arsed men bend over and pass a ball inbetween their legs!!!  

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[Nifty]

22 men, swan song.  11 on a side, just like your football.  

[Swoop]

Ok listen FDSS,  if you were a yank I'd be lookin up an address to come round and punch you in the mouth......but as you're a Brit I guess you've got the right to critisize your own country.


BUT GO EASY DUDE!  

Yep, good point......us Brits did do some horrible things during the age of the British Empire, although I should point out at that time it was the English doing the ruling so dont lump the Welsh and the Scots in the same group.  The British Empire was the biggest empire ever seen on the face of the Earth, no-one else has even come close.  Christ, we even held Afganistan for a fair few years before we finally decided there was nothing worth having there.    

Now quit comparing Brits to Yanks.  There's 350 million of those buggers and 58 million of us.  Course we cant hope to compete on a military level with a country that produces in a year what we produce in 10 years.

However, as a true Brit you MUST believe that on a personal level the British are amoung the most honorable and capable people on earth......just keep the English where ya can see em cos I dont trust the buggers.

   

P.S.  SAS not the best?  LMAO. You've been watching far too much TV.....read Bravo 2-0......and quit smoking whatever it is you're smoking and buy some nice green grass.

Oh and btw, did ya know that in pretty much every joint exercise for the last 20 years the Brits have beat the Yanks?     Boy I could tell ya some stories.......

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[Krusher]

Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
Here's my opinion.
Britain doesn't have any real fighters. Tornados can't compete with the likes of an F-16 or Mig 29. Ok,
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Correct me if I am mistaken, but isnt the tornado designed to do very low level ground attack missions? Its not really designed to compete in the air to air realm. If I am not mistaken it did one heck of a lot the most dangerous attack missions in Iraq. I still theink the F111 is a better looking plane (yea I know its an ardvark  ) but the tornado is a pretty damn good ride on the deck.

[Krusher]

damn I am going to need to learn to type someday