Author Topic: New Bomber stuff SUCKS!!!! (Read 1422 times)

Kimberly · « **Reply #15 on:** July 04, 2002, 09:48:58 PM »

You tell em Mugz !
I was thinking the same thing about a lot of these attaboy comments.

Kimberly

Thrawn · « **Reply #16 on:** July 04, 2002, 11:58:46 PM »

Yikes.

brendo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2002, 02:25:55 AM »

I've been flying AH for a month now (after 1.5 year break).

I though I would take up a Lancaster to dumb a load of 1000 pound bombs over an enemy area.

When I jumped into the bomb view, I was like "WTF? I just put the crosshairs on whatever and the bombs are lazer guided!"

I was going to make a post on the UBB, that Aces High bombing is a joke! I cant believe that such a half assed arcade bomb setup was ever in such a polished and developed sim. Something so critical and intergral to simulating an air war.... (wince!)

Of course, I didnt make the post, because the new setup in 1.10 was already announced.

Electroman..... get used to the new system, cause the old one was L4me d00d. anywaYZe.... there always CS for L88T SN1PERZ.

runny · « **Reply #18 on:** July 05, 2002, 02:48:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Kimberly
You tell em Mugz !
I was thinking the same thing about a lot of these attaboy comments.

Kimberly

My biggest gripe is that HiTech didn't add the button that causes all buffs within d5.0 to burst into flames. I asked -- nicely even!

MugZ · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2002, 05:07:40 AM »

Its just that 1 out of the 5 Guys that have all the Answers on how the New Sight Sys. is Not so bad. And post messages that imply that they arent having much trouble with it.............ARE TELLING HALF TRUTHS! I Checked the Scores of 5 of the "Know It Alls" .....and "KWEASSA" is the Only one who has any Sorties recorded on AH Pilot Stats. Therefore he is the only one who has a right to Give advise on the matter. WTG KWEASSA. The rest of yous all SHUT UP!

Till you can show HArd facts that you know what the heck yous are talking about. ROFL.

MugZ...OUT

Xjazz · « **Reply #20 on:** July 05, 2002, 06:51:00 AM »

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Originally posted by MugZ
Its just that 1 out of the 5 Guys that have all the Answers on how the New Sight Sys. is Not so bad. And post messages that imply that they arent having much trouble with it.............ARE TELLING HALF TRUTHS! I Checked the Scores of 5 of the "Know It Alls" .....and "KWEASSA" is the Only one who has any Sorties recorded on AH Pilot Stats. Therefore he is the only one who has a right to Give advise on the matter. WTG KWEASSA. The rest of yous all SHUT UP! Till you can show HArd facts that you know what the heck yous are talking about. ROFL.
MugZ...OUT

Hehehee hahaaaa hohohooo

Do you know what "Offline" or "h2h" means? Maybe some day you figur it out if you raelly really hard try...

Apache · « **Reply #21 on:** July 05, 2002, 07:11:29 AM »

This bomber change was one of the best things to happen to AH. No more arcade, lazer guided buff crap.

WTG HTC!

Griego · « **Reply #22 on:** July 05, 2002, 08:14:45 AM »

YEAH! You'll need about 10 guys in bomber to close a field and yea maybe the are some of you guys that are have luck in hit the bases well.

I played with this calibrate thingy for 6 hours last night and on one pass i manage to get 3 bombs on the field it didn't hit a specific target though. I had a bomb load of 24 100lb bombs on mutiply that by 3 and its 72 bombs and only 3 made to the field didn't hit anything.

Sometimes it would calibrate correctly and i would drop bombs early because think like last time i let them out to late and they went passed the base. Then i would wait to let them out and they would hit way before it got to the base.

OH man just nerve racking.

Well it would be nice to see 10 guys in a good buff formation.
Except i wouldnt even get close to them if i was in a fighter.

I guess last night the lag was bad and I was getting hit by buffs from 1.9 out and some of the buffs where stills shooting and me from 2.5 out. One of the guys said that he never shot over 1.5 out. So i dove in and got my a&& handed to me before i even got close enough to get a shoot off. YEA I've heard it all you just didnt do a good job of attacking.

**** is what i got to say to that. I didnt sit on his six and try to shoot him that way. Come to think of it maybe i should have.

Vortex · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2002, 08:22:53 AM »

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Originally posted by MugZ
Its just that 1 out of the 5 Guys that have all the Answers on how the New Sight Sys. is Not so bad. And post messages that imply that they arent having much trouble with it.............ARE TELLING HALF TRUTHS! I Checked the Scores of 5 of the "Know It Alls" .....and "KWEASSA" is the Only one who has any Sorties recorded on AH Pilot Stats. Therefore he is the only one who has a right to Give advise on the matter. WTG KWEASSA. The rest of yous all SHUT UP! Till you can show HArd facts that you know what the heck yous are talking about. ROFL.
MugZ...OUT

Your conclusions are terribly flawed Mugz.

A few points worth noting:

1) One does not need to be online to become VERY well versed in the new bombsights. Nay, one SHOULD NOT be online learning this new trade. Offline play is much better suited for that. Your stat checks, in the end, reveal nothing of substance.

2) Time spent with the new sight/targeting format is not a prerequisite for concluding that a more challenging format is better (or worse, depending upon your side of the argument) for buff driving specifically.

3) Nor do I need to have any experience with a buff to draw equally valid conclusions on why, or why not, a more involved bombing process is good or bad for gameplay generally. Without that experience indeed I cannot say "I find it harder or easier." But I can easily make the statement that "I find it a good or bad addition for gameplay overall" and that would be just as valid a statement as if it came from someone who only flew buffs.

Tracer-15 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2002, 08:31:40 AM »

ohh stop your sweetying.......the new system is fine.....i plasterd a field today with no problem.....bomb hit right on the targets......and with formation a little inaccuracy is ok.....just you may need to take MORE time(yes i know its a hard concept)to set up your run

Pongo · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2002, 11:24:47 AM »

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Originally posted by MugZ
Its just that 1 out of the 5 Guys that have all the Answers on how the New Sight Sys. is Not so bad. And post messages that imply that they arent having much trouble with it.............ARE TELLING HALF TRUTHS! I Checked the Scores of 5 of the "Know It Alls" .....and "KWEASSA" is the Only one who has any Sorties recorded on AH Pilot Stats. Therefore he is the only one who has a right to Give advise on the matter. WTG KWEASSA. The rest of yous all SHUT UP! Till you can show HArd facts that you know what the heck yous are talking about. ROFL.
MugZ...OUT

lol
your right. I spent my boming time in the MA trying to level bomb a fleet cause I had found level bombing a field as easy as ever.
First time I hard crashed just as the carrier passed under my sight. Second time someone was doing some awsome evasives that forced me to miss...
but ill put up some numbers for ya bud..
Some of us practiced off line...what a weird concept eh....

MugZ · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2002, 01:23:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Xjazz

Hehehee hahaaaa hohohooo

Do you know what "Offline" or "h2h" means? Maybe some day you figur it out if you raelly really hard try...

So do it online for all to see. Yada yada yada

MugZ · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2002, 01:25:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo

lol
your right. I spent my boming time in the MA trying to level bomb a fleet cause I had found level bombing a field as easy as ever.
First time I hard crashed just as the carrier passed under my sight. Second time someone was doing some awsome evasives that forced me to miss...
but ill put up some numbers for ya bud..
Some of us practiced off line...what a weird concept eh....

You have no bomber rides in the Main either. Please show me that you know a thing or 2 about the new Nordan Sight. Score some meaningfull hits in the MA.

MugZ · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2002, 01:41:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Vortex

Your conclusions are terribly flawed Mugz.

A few points worth noting:

1) One does not need to be online to become VERY well versed in the new bombsights. Nay, one SHOULD NOT be online learning this new trade. Offline play is much better suited for that. Your stat checks, in the end, reveal nothing of substance.

2) Time spent with the new sight/targeting format is not a prerequisite for concluding that a more challenging format is better (or worse, depending upon your side of the argument) for buff driving specifically.

3) Nor do I need to have any experience with a buff to draw equally valid conclusions on why, or why not, a more involved bombing process is good or bad for gameplay generally. Without that experience indeed I cannot say "I find it harder or easier." But I can easily make the statement that "I find it a good or bad addition for gameplay overall" and that would be just as valid a statement as if it came from someone who only flew buffs.

Your stat checks, in the end, reveal nothing of substance.

My Stat checks substantially prove that many people like to make claims that none of us can be sure are valid. Maybe they are and mabey they arent. But who knows? If any are making false claims they know who they are.

Nor do I need to have any experience with a buff to draw equally valid conclusions on why, or why not, a more involved bombing process is good or bad for gameplay generally. Without that experience indeed I cannot say "I find it harder or easier." But I can easily make the statement that "I find it a good or bad addition for gameplay overall" and that would be just as valid a statement as if it came from someone who only flew buffs. Well Said
Its not a matter of understanding how the Calibration works. A three year old can understand the Calibration proceedure. Its a matter of how consistant the calabration is in a controlled invironment. I Have made 30 or so Offline flights. No WIND, Same Launch base, Same Target , A town. Same Alt. 12,000 ft., Same Speed 170 Mph , Salvo set to 20x100lbs. and delay at several different settings. With a sucess rate of about 20% ROFLOL. I Suck. MugZ...OUT

Karnak · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2002, 08:31:26 PM »

Well, I messed about with it offline first.

Last night I took a B-17 formation out online. Nailed my target with 36 500lb bombs.

So I decided to try the Ki-67. Took off, shot a Spit down while enroute and then CTD'd just before the target was under my sight.