Anybody seen the lovely new LA police video?

[MrLars]

Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Sorry.. I disagree MrLars.  Other cops grabbed his arm to stop him from swinging away.  It just didn't happen in time to prevent the first swing.

AKDejaVu [/QUOTE

Sure they stoped him...are you sure they would have reported the incident if there weren't any video tape?

[koala]

I think we got a bad cop here, and probably a racist (both victims happened to be black).

Probably a racist.  Hehe, it's always about race isn't it?



If the perp was white, I wonder if this would even be news.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by koala

Probably a racist.  Hehe, it's always about race isn't it?



If the perp was white, I wonder if this would even be news.

Heh, are you kidding?  Hell no! Chaos is cash to the news folks.

[AKDejaVu]

Originally posted by MrLars
Sure they stoped him...are you sure they would have reported the incident if there weren't any video tape?

MrLars, you have moved from what the did into the realm of hypothetical.  I have no idea what they would have reported... nor do you.  All any of us have are a few seconds of edited video footage.

Yet... the conclusions that are being drawn are simply astounding.

"The cop that lost control is one of them but to have other cops not take immediate action when a violent crime is committed in front of their face is possibly an even worse crime." They stopped him with immediate action.  Read into it what you want... but don't overlook what really happened.

AKDejaVu

[Eagler]

Anyone wanna bet that a 16 year old that resists arrest, fights with an officer, will become a model citizen?

Or would you bet as I do, this won't be his last run in with the law?

As far as that goes, what is his criminal record to date, anyone know?

The tape tells half the story, all the media & lawyers want to hear

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by koala

Probably a racist.  Hehe, it's always about race isn't it?



If the perp was white, I wonder if this would even be news.

Are you kidding? It would be even bigger news! Black kids in the LA area have a complete lack of trust in the police, and not without some good reason. This invariably leads to the type of confrontations that just happened to get caught on this video. Yea, the kid probably mouthed off, and may even have caused the injury to the officer. But it is the us vs. them attitude perpetuating the problem. It is on both sides of the badge, and hot headed cops don't help the problem.  

AKdj, speculation is what we do on this BBS. We are not bound by the rules of the court, and luckily neither do we have any power over the situation. If we did this would be one scary world!    

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Eagler
Anyone wanna bet that a 16 year old that resists arrest, fights with an officer, will become a model citizen?

Or would you bet as I do, this won't be his last run in with the law?

As far as that goes, what is his criminal record to date, anyone know?

The tape tells half the story, all the media & lawyers want to hear

Oh my God! Are you implying that it was OK because he will screw up in the future? Or even that it was OK because his criminal record is bad?

Nothing makes hitting or abusing a handcuffed person OK! Nothing!

[Udie]

Originally posted by Eagler
Anyone wanna bet that a 16 year old that resists arrest, fights with an officer, will become a model citizen?

Or would you bet as I do, this won't be his last run in with the law?

As far as that goes, what is his criminal record to date, anyone know?

The tape tells half the story, all the media & lawyers want to hear

 Inocent until proven guilty.  How do we know the cop didn't start the whole thing?  Maybe the door hit him in the head when it was opened and it cut him (I've seen this happen though not to a cop ).   In the video I see a 16 year old KID yeah he may be a punk but I'd be a lot of us here were punks at that age.  He's limp on the ground and gets lifed up 1 to 2 feet over the trunk and body slammed on it.  I'm sorry that right there gives him all the right in the world to DEFEND himself against an attack. But oops he's cuffed he can only squirm (is that further resistance?).  The cop has a strangle hold on him and then punches him full force in the face. After this he may not have to worry about going straight if he's crooked in the first place.  He's got a big fat payday coming soon....

[Apache]

Originally posted by Eagler
Anyone wanna bet that a 16 year old that resists arrest, fights with an officer, will become a model citizen?

Or would you bet as I do, this won't be his last run in with the law?

As far as that goes, what is his criminal record to date, anyone know?

The tape tells half the story, all the media & lawyers want to hear

Answer me this. Based upon the law, what justified the officer slamming a handcuffed person onto the hood of his car with sufficient force that his head bounced off of the hood? Additionally, what justified the officer to strike the handcuffed suspect in the head with his fist?

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by hblair
Kinda OT, but why does the south, particularly Alabama always get pinned as the mecca for racism? Seems every year or two we get these stories of racial unrest from California, few years ago Philadelphia (that NFL stars nephew beaten to death by cops), in the early nineties there was a big stink about the Boston police being racist. Saw a piece about a year ago on a news magazine show about some Colorado small town police force beating the snot out of some homeless dude daily til he finally died. But us southerners are the big racists? Somebody 'splain that one to me!
(without going back over 30 years)

Heh heh.  "Without going back [more than] 30 years" is the key here, I think.  It took you folks a couple of hundred years to acquire the reputation; pretty tough to lose it in a few decades.

BTW, wasn't it just a few years back that Mississippi finally officially outlawed slavery?

- oldman

[AKDejaVu]

Originally posted by midnight Target
AKdj, speculation is what we do on this BBS. We are not bound by the rules of the court, and luckily neither do we have any power over the situation. If we did this would be one scary world!    

Speculation?  Umm.. no.  Try ignoring what was right in front of you and making up a different version.

Unfortunately... that's what many do here on this bbs too.

And its not a matter of being bound by the rules of the court.  Its a matter of making something up and then using that as support for an argument.  This tactic is quite hilarious actually.

AKDjeaVu

[MrLars]

Originally posted by AKDejaVu

Yet... the conclusions that are being drawn are simply astounding.

Conclusions drawn on this one particular incident are a bit interesting to say the least. My comments are directed at the accepted culture in the law enforcement ranks...that of protecting their fellow officers from the rule of law.  

  [/B]They stopped him with immediate action.  Read into it what you want... but don't overlook what really happened. [/B]

Once again, sure he stopped, but I for one am 99% damn sure that if it weren't for the video tape the only news heard about this would be because of a lawsuit brought against the city by the victim and not because a fellow officer saw the law broken in his presence.

[Eagler]

you guys are wimps

I got worse for a bad report card at his age

no, the cop is scum (as I stated in earlier post) but I bet the the kid is too - wanna bet?
Wouldn't make as good as news if it the punk has a rap sheet longer than his arm...

[AKSWulfe]

Eagler, that ain't the point.

Cops just ain't supposed to hit/beat/slam around anyone when they are subdued and in cuffs.
-SW

[Eagler]

I understand that.

Does anyone understand this punk arse's own actions got him in that position to start with?

The stupid cop should be fired, the punk should go to jail.

Instead the cop will be fired and the punk will walk away with a huge cash settlement... and the justice there???