Author Topic: Anybody seen the lovely new LA police video? (Read 3950 times)

NATEDOG · « **Reply #45 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:31:25 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Jeeez. What the kid did was mouth off to a cop who was harrassing him for being the passenger in a parked car with expired tags. There is no excuse for the cops behavior. NONE!

C'mon Midnight, since when does mouthing off result in a cut over the officer's ear? that kid did a little more than mouth off.

Fatty · « **Reply #46 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:33:39 AM »

Sharp tongue, Nate.

midnight Target · « **Reply #47 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:37:02 AM »

Reports on the local news today say the very same cop beat a guy unconscious just a couple weeks ago and put him in the hospital. The guy was interviewed by local TV, so if he was a hardened criminal he wasn't in custody. I think we got a bad cop here, and probably a racist (both victims happened to be black).

AKIron · « **Reply #48 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:38:18 AM »

Guess we oughta leave the judging to the judge and/or jury, they'll likely have more facts than us.

While I'm not and have never been a cop, nor have I ever worn handcuffs, except maybe in bed that time,

I don't believe they incapacitate someone. You can still kick, bite, headbutt, etc... I'm sure Cops are well trained in this regard but if someone is totally flipped out they might still be very hard to handle, even in cuffs.

Apache · « **Reply #49 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:40:26 AM »

Anyone here ever arrested a cop killer?

I have. Didn't bounce him off a car hood either, or smack him around. God, I wanted to, but didn't. The cop was a kid, 22 yoa and a sweetheart of a guy.

If this Inglewood cop worked for me, he'd be flippin' burgers tomorrow.

midnight Target · « **Reply #50 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:41:03 AM »

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Originally posted by NATEDOG

C'mon Midnight, since when does mouthing off result in a cut over the officer's ear? that kid did a little more than mouth off.

You are correct, however the point I was trying to make was that this wasn't a "heat of the chase" type of arrest. The car was parked in a gas station when the police decided to question the occupants regarding expired tags. No doubt the kid acted stupidly, but there is still NO EXCUSE. The kid and his Dad were DWB.

AKIron · « **Reply #51 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:49:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Apache
Anyone here ever arrested a cop killer?

I have. Didn't bounce him off a car hood either, or smack him around. God, I wanted to, but didn't. The cop was a kid, 22 yoa and a sweetheart of a guy.

If this Inglewood cop worked for me, he'd be flippin' burgers tomorrow.

You have my respect Apache, for that and the job you do day to day. I could never muster up that much self control.

What do you do when someone refuses to cooperate, even after cuffs are on? What if they are really wired and fight tooth and nail? Ever had to subdue someone like that?

Udie · « **Reply #52 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:54:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Apache
Anyone here ever arrested a cop killer?

I have. Didn't bounce him off a car hood either, or smack him around. God, I wanted to, but didn't. The cop was a kid, 22 yoa and a sweetheart of a guy.

If this Inglewood cop worked for me, he'd be flippin' burgers tomorrow.

Have to respect you for that man! That must have been very tough not to take out your own "justice" on the guy, hopefuly he got what he deserved in the court system.

I hope I'm not coming across as a cop hater in this thread, nothing could be further from true. I just hate seeing stuff like what happened in the video. You dudes have a tough job to do. I don't think I'd have it in me to protect somebody who hates me or just tried to kill/hurt me.

S! Apache....

Ripsnort · « **Reply #53 on:** July 09, 2002, 09:57:34 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target

The kid and his Dad were DWB.

"Victim" route again eh? Gets real old. Think "Expired tabs" son.

Eagler · « **Reply #54 on:** July 09, 2002, 10:13:45 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
I think we got a bad cop here, and probably a racist (both victims happened to be black).

Yep, a bad cop

A racist because both were black

Maybe the majority of the crimes committed in that area are committed by blacks, jeez what a concept ... to me it's an odds thing. He needs his cop arse kicked, fired but to label hima racist based on info you listed sounds like lawyer talk

capt. apathy · « **Reply #55 on:** July 09, 2002, 10:20:59 AM »

Apache,

~~, I wish my kid ran into more cops like you instead of the other kind.~~

Apache · « **Reply #56 on:** July 09, 2002, 10:28:28 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron

You have my respect Apache, for that and the job you do day to day. I could never muster up that much self control.

What do you do when someone refuses to cooperate, even after cuffs are on? What if they are really wired and fight tooth and nail? Ever had to subdue someone like that?

Yes AKIron, many, many times. We are taught, in SC anyway, to use techniques to restrain these types of persons thru the use of pressure point, restraining devices or numbers, which ever is necessary at the time.

Brutaility is not one of them. It is our duty to "protect" that individual once he/she is in our custody. Hard to swallow some times, especially when you get rapped up side the head but, it goes with the territory.

Guys, there are tons of cops out there who are "on the wall' so to speak everyday. They are the ones you don't hear about that have to live with the stigma this jerk just put on us. He won't have to worry about it, working at Burger King.

midnight Target · « **Reply #57 on:** July 09, 2002, 10:32:32 AM »

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So this cop hit a guy. Yeah, that is bad, and it is against the law. But that guy probably had it coming for some reason. After all, cops just dont go around hitting people for the heck of it. Lesson here: be polite towards cops, and stuff like this wont happen.

Steve, before I say this .... who on this board is your best buddy? Me of course!

Now doesn't this strike you as just a little hypocritical?

On the one hand you are quick to condemn the allies for terror bombing during the war. You feel that the perpetrators should be treated the same based on the fact that it is the same crime. No extenuating circumstances, like "They had it coming".
On the other hand we have a 16 yr old kid, handcuffed and slammed and slugged. But he "had it coming". You might want to rethink this one sir.

Apache · « **Reply #58 on:** July 09, 2002, 10:33:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Udie

Have to respect you for that man! That must have been very tough not to take out your own "justice" on the guy, hopefuly he got what he deserved in the court system.

I hope I'm not coming across as a cop hater in this thread, nothing could be further from true. I just hate seeing stuff like what happened in the video. You dudes have a tough job to do. I don't think I'd have it in me to protect somebody who hates me or just tried to kill/hurt me.

S! Apache....

You don't sound like a cop hater at all Udie. I understand what you're saying.

Apache · « **Reply #59 on:** July 09, 2002, 10:35:17 AM »

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Originally posted by capt. apathy
Apache,

~~, I wish my kid ran into more cops like you instead of the other kind.~~

~~Thanks Capt. They're out there, believe me.~~