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Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2002, 10:41:21 AM »
You got cops that are on a power trip, which tends to mean they are bad cops... then you got the good cops, the ones who just do their job how their supposed to.

You rarely hear about the latter, but always about the former.

In this case, it was the former.

Cops keep the street safe.. I just don't like 'em when they get me. ;)
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« Reply #61 on: July 09, 2002, 10:51:04 AM »
Never woulda happened if he'd followed these simple instructions:

How not to get your bellybutton kicked

Know someone already posted this somewhere but funny enough to watch again. :D
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« Reply #62 on: July 09, 2002, 10:57:55 AM »
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Never woulda happened if he'd followed these simple instructions:

How not to get your bellybutton kicked

Know someone already posted this somewhere but funny enough to watch again. :D


Now, if[/i] a white guy on a white mans show made that video....  :eek: :eek:

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« Reply #63 on: July 09, 2002, 11:43:00 AM »
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"Victim" route again eh? Gets real old.  Think "Expired tabs" son.


Since when does the passenger in a car get questioned for "expired tags"? C'mon! Victim's do exist no matter how you want to phrase it.

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« Reply #64 on: July 09, 2002, 11:55:20 AM »
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Well, this is probably gonna freak you out pretty bad, (considering my line of work) but I'm gonna post it anyway.

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So this cop hit a guy. Yeah, that is bad, and it is against the law. But that guy probably had it coming for some reason. After all, cops just dont go around hitting people for the heck of it. Lesson here: be polite towards cops, and stuff like this wont happen.


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« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2002, 12:14:06 PM »
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Since when does the passenger in a car get questioned for "expired tags"? C'mon! Victim's do exist no matter how you want to phrase it.
Dunno how the passenger gets questioned... and I tend to think you don't either.

I think those saying he deserved it are too quick to label as are those that say he didn't.  Victim or criminal?  Based on what we've read?  come on.

One thing is clear... the cop was out of line.  Wether instigated or not.  We all know it... those working with the cop at the time know it.  No reason to expand on it farther than that since there is no real information to indicate what happened.

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« Reply #66 on: July 09, 2002, 12:26:08 PM »
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Steve, before I say this .... who on this board is your best buddy? Me of course!

Now doesn't this strike you as just a little hypocritical?

On the one hand you are quick to condemn the allies for terror bombing during the war. You feel that the perpetrators should be treated the same based on the fact that it is the same crime. No extenuating circumstances, like "They had it coming".
On the other hand we have a 16 yr old kid, handcuffed and slammed and slugged. But he "had it coming". You might want to rethink this one sir.


Yeah yeah I know. I suppose you have a point in there somewhere. But this is my heart talking remember...

Problem is I know alot of cops, and I have been together with some on patrol on a couple of occations (if you are working inside the legal system in Sweden, the cops let you ride along in the police cars if you want) and the amount of toejam these guys take from every direction is bloody amazing. EVERYONE will throw toejam on a cop it seems, because everyone knows that a cop is (in almost all cases) a good decent guy/girl, who will do his/her best to follow the law. It's like some people think insulting cops is fair game or something. When I was riding with those cops, I saw guys spit at them, I saw guys trying to knee them in the croutch when in handcuffs, I heard them threat the cops and their families, you name it. All that stuff didnt even go on report because the cops knows it's futile (something I dont like with the Swedish legal system is the crime and punishment -part).

These same cops were out an hour later picking up the remnants of some family who bought it in a head on collision with a truck (I stayed well clear of that carwreck though, frankly I think I would have passed out or something if I had walked over there)  

Bottom line is this, the amount of toejam these guys get from every direction is insane, despite that they still keep doing the best damn job I have ever seen. In my book, that earns them a mile of slack if they should lose their temper one day. Personally I could never be a cop, first day on the job I would probably shoot someone :)

I will always do my best to look the other way if a cop oversteps his boundaries, and I know alot of prosecutors and judges who feel the same way. But sometimes it is impossible for various reasons, and in those occations, (most often in the blinding media light) the cop will be hit by the full force of the law.

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« Reply #67 on: July 09, 2002, 12:36:06 PM »
Cops still have to abide by the laws and regulations here in America Hortlund. AFAIK, you can not beat a suspect in custody unless they are resisting arrest... at the point that video begins, it doesn't appear as tho he's resisting arrest.

But anyway, I don't want to make an issue out of that... however, "I will always do my best to look the other way if a cop oversteps his boundaries"

So if the same cop comes up before you multiple times in court with charges of assualt on a suspect in custody... you continue to look the other way?
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« Reply #68 on: July 09, 2002, 12:45:46 PM »
I'm not sayin that gave the cop a good excuse....... the cop shouldn't have hit him except in self-defence, and clearly the kid had cuffs on and was no longer a threat........ but you were sayin the kid didn't do anything, and I'm sayin he did.
I also don't think this had anything to do with race...... notice the black cop didn't seem to mind the injured cop hittin this kid. I think this situation was taken further than it should have been. The cop and the kid got into a scuffle, the cop got injured, got upset, emotions got the best of him, and he hit this kid. did the kid deserve it, who knows, does the cop deserve disipline, yes. But I'm also willing to bet that if that kid would have respected the cop in the first place, none of this would have happen.

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« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2002, 01:52:47 PM »
Kinda OT, but why does the south, particularly Alabama always get pinned as the mecca for racism? Seems every year or two we get these stories of racial unrest from California, few years ago Philadelphia (that NFL stars nephew beaten to death by cops), in the early nineties there was a big stink about the Boston police being racist. Saw a piece about a year ago on a news magazine show about some Colorado small town police force beating the snot out of some homeless dude daily til he finally died. But us southerners are the big racists? Somebody 'splain that one to me! ;)
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« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2002, 02:00:29 PM »
George Wallace .... oops you said not to go back 30 years :)
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« Reply #71 on: July 09, 2002, 02:15:38 PM »
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Cops still have to abide by the laws and regulations here in America Hortlund. AFAIK, you can not beat a suspect in custody unless they are resisting arrest... at the point that video begins, it doesn't appear as tho he's resisting arrest.

But anyway, I don't want to make an issue out of that... however, "I will always do my best to look the other way if a cop oversteps his boundaries"

So if the same cop comes up before you multiple times in court with charges of assualt on a suspect in custody... you continue to look the other way?
-SW


SW, guess what, cops still have to abide by the laws and regulations here in Sweden too...imagine that.

Im not trying to say that what that cop did was legal, what I am saying is that I'm willing to look the other way. Once. What I am saying is that I'm gonna cut them some slack I would not give others.

If the same cop comes back several times he will be hit by the full force and fury of the law. Im not saying that all cops should have a "get out of jail"-card. I dont want to see corrupt cops anymore than anyone else.

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« Reply #72 on: July 09, 2002, 02:18:59 PM »
cc Hortlund, I just wanted it clarified. :)
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« Reply #73 on: July 09, 2002, 02:24:26 PM »
Ya know...there was more than one crime committed in that film. The cop that lost control is one of them but to have other cops not take immediate action when a violent crime is committed in front of their face is possibly an even worse crime. If there wasn't a video of this incident I suspect there would be NO case since none of those other cops would have come forward IMO. The time has come to change the culture of this nations police forces in order to rid them of  the good 'ol boy network. Stings should be run to weed out the ones who will turn their backs to the abuses that happen all to often.

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« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2002, 02:32:21 PM »
Sorry.. I disagree MrLars.  Other cops grabbed his arm to stop him from swinging away.  It just didn't happen in time to prevent the first swing.

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