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Offline Curval

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« on: July 16, 2002, 02:46:37 PM »
Any pilot who doesn't go for the head-on shot when he is in a bad situation.  There are a few of them...I think.

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Offline Greese

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2002, 02:57:54 PM »
The guns face forward.  If an enemy plane gets into my gunsights, I fire.  I try to avoid HO shots, not because I have some moral problem with them, but because it's very risky.  I will shoot if I can though, better a bad shot and he dies than allow him to live and wait for him to get on my 6.

Offline Nifty

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2002, 02:58:54 PM »
Pilots I admire are ones that don't go for the HO on me when I've got 3+ cons on my 6.  The ones that do go for the head-on are going down with me.  :)
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2002, 03:00:16 PM »
Hmmmm fly a jug long enough and you'll have a whole new appreciation for the fine art of head on shooting......Let me see I can pop this spit dweeb right between the eyes or make two turns with him and then die....hmmmmmm......BETWEEN THE EYES IT IS!!!!! RATTATATATATATATATA!!!!!

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2002, 07:11:30 PM »
Who says you have to turn with 'em?  Just extend and engage at your pleasure.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2002, 07:27:28 PM »
Hmmm... extend, re-engage... oh look! Another head on opportunity... ratatatatat!
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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2002, 07:46:26 PM »
I mostly fly Mosquitoes.  You bet I'll take the HO.  Its that or let him kill me in the case of way too many aircraft.

On the other hand I never take an HO in a Spit or A6M if I can possibly help it.
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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2002, 08:06:20 PM »
"well dammit, his head was TOO me!"

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2002, 08:09:37 PM »
I'm in my p47d-25 and you in your la7 at 7K... sorry guy! I ll make a HO. I don't know why a lot ot la7 pilots make HOs with me in my poor p47 at 7K :)

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2002, 08:29:37 PM »
For me, dogfighting is a means to an end.

I'm typically working with a group trying to take a field or suppress a factory or whatever. I'm not going to be sporting about it. I'm going to attempt to knock you out of the sky as quick as possible and continue supporting the mission at hand. If that means a shot in the face, so be it.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2002, 08:32:08 PM »
So you admire the guy that will let you lead turn on him and kill him from behind, risk-free? I would too, damn nice of the guy...

So what is wrong with thinning the odds in an HO if you are outnumbered and swarmed? Just how do you think the fellow is going to have the luxury to lag pursue you with a couple of fellows taking passes at him? I think you expect too much from your opponents.

I'll HO you everytime in that situation if you put yourself in front of my guns. I sure won't refrain from pulling the trigger when there's a fair chance you won't AND I'm outnumbered...

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2002, 08:40:52 PM »


I may not be honourable but cross my guns and I fire...As  Top Gun tells us all


Take the shot or goose dies...simple

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2002, 08:47:53 PM »
I have never understood this gripe.  I've fallen prey to my fair share of HOs in the couple months that I've been here, but I always keep one thing in mind.  It takes TWO PLANES to create a HO situation.  Sure, maybe one guy is pushing the issue more than the other, but it's a legitimate, albeit mostly unrealistic, tactic.

You're being chased by a couple bandits and suddenly someone comes at you head on, playing chicken with you?  Imagine that!  What better way to get you to turn before you're ready, thus allowing his countrymen to get a better shot at you.

Someone comes at you HO you've got two choices, take him (or her) out or avoid.  If you do neither thn it's your own dang fault.

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2002, 09:19:43 PM »
IMO, if you turn to shoot, or come to a guns solution and your opponent turns HO, AND you either follow through the HO, or do not have a solution yourself... well, then you're as guilty as he is.

I also don't think he's guilty of anything. There's nothing wrong with facing an opponents gunfire. After all, you don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

There's a persistent, historical precedence for it, as well. So, in my mind the guy that complains the loudest has fewer solutions.

HO as you see fit.

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2002, 09:46:11 PM »
I gotta say I admire some of the brash pilots who not only (1) attack superior numbers but (2) rack up some kills and then (3) survive.  That's total competence, and it's not as impressive unless you achieve all three points.
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