Author Topic: Who's given up on buffing? (Read 1867 times)

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #15 on:** July 30, 2002, 01:56:27 PM »

Right.... forgot you gotta bomb targets online because it's so much different than offline.

I guarantee you, you line up for 2 minutes before the target and spend that time calibrating your bombsight, input the right info and MAKE SURE your bomb bay doors are open, and speed is adjusted, before you begin calibrating the bombsight... and you'll get a good drop.

Hell, the real norden needed 10+ minutes for lineup, and you don't even have to figure in wind here!

but of course, it's a challenge... if the past 2 years have taught people who use bombers anything... it's that a challenge just ain't fun apparently.
-SW

muckmaw · « **Reply #16 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:03:15 PM »

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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
you don't even have to figure in wind here!

-SW

I'm a bit confused. Please elaborate on this point. I thought over 14k you had to deal with a 30 Knot easterly wind.

Are you saying the wind does not affect bomb drops?

*Please note, the above is NOT sarcastic. I am asking a serious question here, because I thought you needed to adjust for the wind when bombing over 14K*

easymo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:05:02 PM »

but of course, it's a challenge... if the past 2 years have taught people who use bombers anything... it's that a challenge just ain't fun apparently.
-SW

I think you may have just set off the beepers.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #18 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:06:24 PM »

There is no wind value you have to manually put in, or figure out.

In the real Norden you marked a point on the terrain with a nav device and would figure out how much the bomber is drifting. This would give you a rough figure for you to put into the Norden, thereby figuring bomb drift.

Here, wind is a moot point with this particular calibration algorithm.
-SW

eskimo2 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:13:52 PM »

I have lined up 15 miles out and missed by over a mile at only 8k AGL.

eskimo

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #20 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:17:44 PM »

Practice makes perfect. I'm pretty sure the longer you calibrate it (as in terms of time, not how many times you calibrate it), the closer to the target your drop will be.

Are you bombing the ground, or objects? Where's your bombsight? If it's on an object (higher than the ground), this will offset where the bombs will impact.
-SW

eskimo2 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:39:10 PM »

The last time I bombed, I calibrated way early, and had been at cruising speed for 10 minutes. Bombed a 5kish target and missed long by a mile. The frustrating thing is, that there's no way to know what you've done wrong. How can you even learn if you don't know what caused you to miss?

Spend dozens of hours to learn, or just take a Chog and do it right.

Bombing just isn't THAt important to many folks.

eskimo

AcId · « **Reply #22 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:44:33 PM »

So what your saying is that when you calibrate you MUST mark a point that is the same alt as your target?!?!?!?! Why?? I'ts my understanding that the mark is for calibrating speed only, and we set the alt with the clipboard. Please share with us this method of yours that SOUNDS like it works everytime.

Goth · « **Reply #23 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:48:05 PM »

I've gotten ok at bombing (using mostly Kentucky windage) and can place all three bombers drops within a base....problem I have with bombing now is, either the spread pattern is not enough (yes, I have experimented with delay) or I need to make multiple runs at a base. It's pretty rediculous (and frustrating) when I drop 36 500lb eggs on a base and only get a gun emplacement.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #24 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:48:20 PM »

Are you aiming at an object, or are you aiming at the ground?
-SW

Yeager · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:49:29 PM »

Another real important thing to consider: After you have everything set and are ready to drop, be danged sure you dont need to slew too far left or right to line up on anything. Five degrees either way and you should be ok but if you find that you really need to slew more than just a tad, your going to miss.

Set up is vital. I almost wish we had a setting like in naval guns where you click on the target and get a compass fix. Would be real nice when your twenty miles out to know the precise heading of the target and have a reading in the bombsight that tell you your own precise heading to match with the target heading.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #26 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:51:21 PM »

The alt of the area you intend to bomb, and the alt of the area you picked off the map has to be the same... otherwise you will get more near misses than hits.

Otherwise you have the bombsight calibrated for an object that may be lower or higher than your intended "area"... which means the bombs will fall shorter or longer.
-SW

AvidMC · « **Reply #27 on:** July 30, 2002, 02:58:54 PM »

So how does one adjust for the wind layer?? The only thing I have found to work is to make your approach from a due east or due west direction. This sometimes does not put me on the best path to hit multiple targets at a base. Is there a way to fly north south in the wind layer and still get hits??

Avid

AcId · « **Reply #28 on:** July 30, 2002, 03:01:31 PM »

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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
The alt of the area you intend to bomb, and the alt of the area you picked off the map has to be the same... otherwise you will get more near misses than hits.

Otherwise you have the bombsight calibrated for an object that may be lower or higher than your intended "area"... which means the bombs will fall shorter or longer.
-SW

Then why do we set the Alt by clicking on the clipboard? hmmmm?

Either the help files are wrong or the calibration system is wrong, which is it?

Hooligan · « **Reply #29 on:** July 30, 2002, 03:03:53 PM »

Tactical bombers SHOULD be better tools for hitting tactical (i.e. pinpoint targets). What the game needs for buffs is large dispersed targets that are more suitable for buffing than jaboing.

Hooligan