Author Topic: Video Card overclocking? (Read 673 times)

LePaul · « **on:** August 06, 2002, 11:04:32 AM »

Bloom, you left a nice link to that HardCop website. Reading a few of the reviews, one of the reviewers mentioned this in a GeForce 4 Ti 4600 review....

[Video Card, Stock Speed Max, Stock Memory mhz, Stable Overclock Core Memory Core Memory ]

Asus GF4 Ti 4600 Ultra Deluxe
300Mhz 650Mhz 320Mhz 740Mhz

Gainward CardExpert Ultra/750 XP GF4 Ti 4600
300MHz 650MHz 325MHz 730MHz

JoyTech Bloody Monster II Ti4600
300MHz 650MHz 320MHz 730MHz

MSI GF4Ti4600-VTD (MS-8872)
300MHz 650MHz 320MHz 720MHz

VisionTek Xtasy GF4 Ti 4600
300MHz 650MHz 325MHz 700MHz

ABIT Siluro GF4 Ti 4400
275MHz 550MHz 300MHz 665MHz

VisionTek Xtasy GF4 Ti 4400
275MHz 550MHz 320MHz 675MHz

Gainward GF4 Ti4200
250MHz 444MHz 320MHz 560MHz

MSI GF4 Ti 4200
250Mhz 500Mhz 305Mhz 600Mhz

NVIDIA Reference GF4 Ti 4200
250MHz 500MHz 290MHz 585MHz

Haven't tried this, then again I do not have an overclocker program either.

[Reference URL: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzI1LDU= ]

SKurj · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2002, 01:18:50 PM »

y would u want to...

SKurj

Chairboy · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2002, 01:44:31 PM »

To get higher framerates, silly rabbit!

SKurj · « **Reply #3 on:** August 06, 2002, 05:52:14 PM »

+) what minimum 75fps isn't enough for BD5?

SKurj

LePaul · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2002, 08:51:18 AM »

More power!

bloom25 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2002, 11:22:34 AM »

LePaul, you can do the "coolbits" registry hack, posted on this BBS and many other places, to allow you to bump up core and memory speeds. There are also free programs available that let you do the same (and more). Rivatuner is one such program.

I think I might try it myself, my:

XP 1900+ on Asus A7N266-C
512 MB Kingston PC2100 DDR
MSI GeForce 4 Ti 4200 64 MB card (stock speeds)
DX 8.1b
28.90 Drivers

scored 9460 on 3dmark 2001 SE @ 1024x768 defaults.

I haven't had time for much tweaking yet, but upping the CPU to 1636 MHz (bios says XP 1947+

) gave me a 9550.

Since this card has 3.6 ns memory I can overclock it to 550 MHz (500 MHz stock) along with a small core boost without any problems at all.

My goal is to break 10000.

LePaul · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2002, 02:03:59 PM »

You arent far behind me, with all the FSAA stuff off, Im scoring 9950.

I might try it to see if I break that 10k barrier too. I havent overclocked my CPU to do it tho (Athlon XP 2000+ here, not sure how far to nudge it up, and if the MSI board will let me)

bloom25 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 07, 2002, 07:42:18 PM »

You've got a 4600 card though right?

You could bump the CPU up just a bit and get a 10000 score.

Just go into the bios and change your FSB from 133 Mhz to 134 or 135 MHz (which should be safe) and you'll probably get it.

If you go too high the system will fail to boot, or will boot but be unstable. If it fails to boot, you can just clear the cmos and start over.

At 135 MHz FSB your CPU will run at 1690 MHz or so (stock is 1667 MHz). That should be enough to break 10000 for you.

Just using a different driver version could do it as well.

LePaul · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2002, 10:13:53 PM »

Thanks, you read my mind....I didnt know how far to push that barrier...I did 140mhz and I boot as a AMD Athlon XP 2100 :-) Notching it back a tad now

LePaul · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2002, 11:08:53 PM »

Ok Bloom, here's what we did....

CPU overclocked to 136mhz FSB =1700mhz

Video card (VisionTek GeForce 4 4600) to 317.3 core, 702mhz ram

Anything over 318 and I lock up in 3DMark's first test. Oh well, pretty damn cool...and temperatures are showing 41F...1 degree more than before. I have the AMD CPU fan in there plus 2 80mms..one pull air in from the front, one in the back, over the CPU, yanking air out. Good ventilation

Now the results...

RESULTS
3DMark Score   10360 <-- Kick ass!

Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail   155.0 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail   52.0 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail   197.2 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail   106.7 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail   131.3 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail   59.5 fps
Game 4 - Nature   58.2 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)   1167.7 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)   2466.3 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)   52.4 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)   13.3 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping   155.2 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping   174.2 fps
Vertex Shader   105.8 fps
Pixel Shader   132.2 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader   103.6 fps
Point Sprites   33.0 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version   2.2
Installation ID   0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer   AMD
Family   AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
Internal Clock   1.71 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum   3 GHz
External Clock   136 MHz
Socket Designation   Socket-A
Type
Upgrade   Socket A
Capabilities   MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Version   AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
CPUID   0x00000662

Thanks for the tips, Bloom...how did your adventure in overclocking go?

bloom25 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2002, 11:14:15 PM »

Was it stable at that speed? With good ram (main limiting factor oftentimes) it may have been.

I've switched to the brand new Detonator 30.82 drivers on Nvidia's site.

I think they actually perform a little worse than the 28.90s overall though.

After switching I was down from a 9550 to 9488. The score seems to vary everytime you run it by around 50 points though...

.

Overclocking the ram on my card to 540 MHz gave me a 9626. I was thinking of trying for more, but there's no reason to compromise the stablility of my card and system. To get to 10000 I'd have to do some serious tweaking with just a 64 MB Ti 4200 card and I will always sacrifice some very minor speed improvements for stablity anyday.

bloom25 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 07, 2002, 11:16:43 PM »

Stupid question - how are you getting that text printout? I can get that in a window, but can't copy and paste from it.

bloom25 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2002, 11:37:52 PM »

Well, with the memory at 562 Mhz I got a 9668. Since I have that MSI card I'm sure I could up the core speed and get some more, but I don't know if I wan't to push it much harder.

bloom25 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 07, 2002, 11:55:22 PM »

Hehe

3DMARK2001 PROJECT FILE

PROJECT
Name   My Benchmark
Description
Registration Name
Registration Key
3DMark Version   300

DISPLAY
Platform   NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
CPU Optimization   D3D Pure Hardware T&L
Width   1024
Height   768
Depth   32 bit
Z-Buffering   24 bit
Texture Format   Compressed
Buffering   Double
Refresh Rate   60 Hz
FSAA Mode   None

OPTIONS
Show Title Screens   Yes
Continuous Benchmark   No
Benchmark Run Count   1
Demo Sounds Enabled   Yes
Continuous Demo   No
Game Sound Effects Enabled   Yes
Game Music Enabled   Yes
Game Detail Level   Low

RESULTS
3DMark Score   9854
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail   155.3 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail   52.3 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail   172.6 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail   102.3 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail   136.6 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail   62.6 fps
Game 4 - Nature   43.4 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)   963.3 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)   2113.9 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)   46.0 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)   11.5 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping   141.0 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping   131.6 fps
Vertex Shader   76.6 fps
Pixel Shader   108.3 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader   83.8 fps
Point Sprites   28.4 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version   2.2
Installation ID   0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer   AMD
Family   AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1900+
Internal Clock   1.59 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum   1.59 GHz
External Clock   136 MHz
Socket Designation   SOCKET A
Type   Central
Upgrade
Capabilities   MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Version   Model 6, Stepping 2
CPUID   0x00000662

Upping the GPU core to 275 MHz helped a lot. Maybe I could break 10000 afterall (but I don't know if I wan't to risk it.)

bloom25 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 08, 2002, 01:37:43 AM »

You didn't really think I'd quit did you?

(I can squeze just a tad more out ... maybe) This is with the CPU FSB at 138 MHz (1660 MHz) with GPU core at 286 MHz and Memory at 584 MHz.

3DMARK2001 PROJECT FILE

PROJECT
Name   My Benchmark
Description
Registration Name
Registration Key
3DMark Version   300

DISPLAY
Platform   NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
CPU Optimization   D3D Pure Hardware T&L
Width   1024
Height   768
Depth   32 bit
Z-Buffering   24 bit
Texture Format   Compressed
Buffering   Double
Refresh Rate   60 Hz
FSAA Mode   None

OPTIONS
Show Title Screens   Yes
Continuous Benchmark   No
Benchmark Run Count   1
Demo Sounds Enabled   Yes
Continuous Demo   No
Game Sound Effects Enabled   Yes
Game Music Enabled   Yes
Game Detail Level   Low

RESULTS
3DMark Score   10210
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail   160.9 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail   53.8 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail   180.5 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail   106.5 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail   140.3 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail   64.0 fps
Game 4 - Nature   45.4 fps
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing)   1010.2 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing)   2216.3 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light)   47.9 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights)   12.1 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping   146.3 fps
DOT3 Bump Mapping   138.1 fps
Vertex Shader   79.1 fps
Pixel Shader   113.3 fps
Advanced Pixel Shader   87.8 fps
Point Sprites   29.8 MSprites/s

SYSTEM INFO

System Info Version   2.2
Installation ID   0x00000000
OEM ID

CPU INFO
CENTRAL PROCESSING UNITS
Manufacturer   AMD
Family   AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1900+
Internal Clock   1.62 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum   1.62 GHz
External Clock   138 MHz
Socket Designation   SOCKET A
Type   Central
Upgrade
Capabilities   MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Version   Model 6, Stepping 2
CPUID   0x00000662